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Cable execs say Netflix is killing TV ratings
Fortune ^ | 03/11/2015 | Benjamin Snyder

Posted on 03/11/2015 10:37:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Viewership was down in the third and fourth quarters

It might be time for cable to start worrying about online streaming. The Wall Street Journal reported that a drop in TV ratings and viewership can be chalked up to subscription-based streaming services, including Netflix, Hulu and Amazon.

People familiar with the Cabletelevision Advertising Bureau told the newspaper that as much as 40% of TV-rating declines in the third and fourth quarters were attributable to streaming services. The news comes as TV viewing has declined by an estimated 10% from a year previously in the third quarter, and by 9% for the fourth quarter year-over-year, according to the Journal, citing Nielsen data.

“We believe the U.S. television industry is entering a period of prolonged structural decline, caused by a migration of viewers from ad-supported platforms to non-ad-supported or less-ad-supported platforms,” according to Sanford C. Bernstein analyst Todd Juenger in a March 9 statement.

According to the Journal, Scripps Networks Interactive chief revenue officer Steve Gigliotti said that working with Netflix once “sounded like a good idea, but “now there are some serious misgivings about it.”

Netflix reported fourth quarter earnings in January, posting big gains. The company reportedly finished 2014 with a 26% gain in revenue in the year’s last quarter, while over four million people subscribed. Netflix notched $1.48 billion in revenue during the quarter, up from $1.18 billion last year. Profits also rose 72% year-over-year for the fourth quarter to $83.4 million, or $1.38 per share.

Meanwhile, HBO announced a streaming service that will begin as an exclusive partnership with Apple. Plans were unveiled at a March 9 event, featuring the Apple Watch. While HBO Go will cost $14.99 per month and require access to an Apple TV, Netflix costs $8.99. During the event, Apple also announced it’d be reducing the price of the Apple TV to $69 from $99.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: apple; cabletv; hbo; lgbtfallout; netflix
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To: ozarkgirl

All I can think to recommend is a Roko or Firestick electrical appliance.
With a Firestick you can stream a menu of stuff to any TV through your modem, and spare yourself television fare.
Hope that helps.


61 posted on 03/11/2015 11:22:08 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

The MLB App is crap. I bought it last year to watch the Cards. You’re lucky to get more than 10 minutes of streaming before having to jack with the system to get it back.


62 posted on 03/11/2015 11:23:21 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think that if I could stream fox news I might drop my cable but keep the internet

They have now a loss of monopoly. They have competition that will drive change. Prices will come down


63 posted on 03/11/2015 11:23:26 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

A “one-hour” TV program has between 39 and 42 minutes of content. The remaining time is commercials — roughly 20 minutes per hour of content. Many times, they have commercial interruptions with 5 minutes of each other. And, the final commercial interruption period has been extended to about 8 minutes.

In the 1960s-70s, a typical “one hour’ TV program had about 48 minutes of content.

Netflix has zero interruptions for commercials.


64 posted on 03/11/2015 11:23:39 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Mad Dawgg
Actually, HBO doesn't so much whine about GoT being the most pirated show as brag of it. Here's what the Time-Warner CEO said:
“Basically, we’ve been dealing with this issue for years with HBO, literally 20, 30 years, where people have always been running wires down on the back of apartment buildings and sharing with their neighbors,” he said. “Our experience is, it all leads to more penetration, more paying subs, more health for HBO, less reliance on having to do paid advertising… If you go around the world, I think you’re right, Game of Thrones is the most pirated show in the world. Well, you know, that’s better than an Emmy.”
As for the Apple deal, it's basically a pilot program, testing the waters. HBO doesn't have the infrastructure to offer their service to the public via internet right now, but Apple does. Look for them to expand to Roku and other devices after the three-month exclusive.
65 posted on 03/11/2015 11:23:55 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I have no TV or cable.

I have had only Netflix since about 2008.

Who needs the MSM?


66 posted on 03/11/2015 11:24:06 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bush / Clinton 2016! Clinton / Bush 2020! Uniparty Forever!)
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To: V_TWIN

Reagan got shot when I was a kid. It was a bummer day for me, and not for that reason. I had to play outside.


67 posted on 03/11/2015 11:24:24 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: kevkrom
15 bucks a month for HBO is no deal.

And buying a dedicated TV internet box is for people who can't figure out how to hook a computer to their entertainment system or don't realize its a much better way to go about it.

Been watching internet TV for several years with a computer I built that now holds multiple 2TB HDs All of it backed up with HD movies and HD Tv shows, Home Movies, photos etc. plus it can stream most of what the dedicated settop boxes can do AND I can record anything I stream just like a DVR.

68 posted on 03/11/2015 11:25:09 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Hah! I remember that too! I remember telling my parents “Come on let’s get it there’s no commercials!” Now out of a 1000 channels maybe one or two are commercial free. That’s the money angle, anytime money is involved eventually the rules are going to change no matter what they say. That’s why this stuff of the FCC getting involved in the internet is such a scam, it goes without saying eventually they’re going to go after the money. A license to run a website, taxes, fines, you name it.


69 posted on 03/11/2015 11:26:10 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (She comes out of the sun in a silk dress running like a watercolor in the rain)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Good.

With Netflix, I get to watch what I want to watch, when I want to watch it.

With cable, I pay for 250 channels I’ll never tune in to, plus the 50 channels I do... But then I’ll end up watching the shows I missed off Netflix later anyway...


70 posted on 03/11/2015 11:26:34 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I haven’t had a TV since 2007. Anytime I watch TV now, and a commercial comes one, I forget what I was watching, and turn the channel.


71 posted on 03/11/2015 11:27:06 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I have to admit though, MSNBC is a good comedy show.


72 posted on 03/11/2015 11:27:39 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (She comes out of the sun in a silk dress running like a watercolor in the rain)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

I remember when Disney Channel started having commercials. They would just advertise the shows that came on Disney.


73 posted on 03/11/2015 11:28:20 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: liberalh8ter
would enjoy my Netflix much more if it didn't keep losing its connection at least 7 times per movie. I suspect I’m not alone.

That is most likely due to your internet provider.

I have an intermediate level Internet via my cable company. If the cable co is working on the lines or equipment, I get intermittent disconnects. Otherwise, I get 50 Mbps and seldom have any buffering or disconnecting while watching Netflix movies/TV programs. I also use a ROKU 3 box to stream Netflix. A movie or TV program loads and starts playing in about 3 seconds.


74 posted on 03/11/2015 11:28:24 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
"Look for them to expand to Roku and other devices after the three-month exclusive."

So then the 3 month exclusion was for....

Nothing at all except to trick people who own a roku into buying an Apple.

Like I said, Not gonna stop pirating in fact the people who do most of the pirating already hate Apple and Big Media.

75 posted on 03/11/2015 11:29:12 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Created a filthy show, and filthy people will figure out how to watch it without paying.


76 posted on 03/11/2015 11:29:26 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

There are ways around that.


77 posted on 03/11/2015 11:30:32 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
15 bucks a month for HBO is no deal.

Subjective - value proposition will very from individual to individual. From a strict price comparison, my cable company wants $30/mo. for HBO if not bundling it with other premiums.

And buying a dedicated TV internet box is for people who can't figure out how to hook a computer to their entertainment system or don't realize its a much better way to go about it.

Or has different needs. In my case, I have a dedicated home media server hooked up to one TV, but Apple TV units in two other rooms to leverage off the same storage system. Does that make me someone "who can't figure out how to hook a computer to their entertainment system"?

Plus, the Apple TV also has the AirPlay feature which allows me to directly stream anything off my phone directly to that TV. It's more than just a dumb box for dumb users.

78 posted on 03/11/2015 11:31:05 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: ozarkgirl
Maybe one of you can tell me what exactly is netflix? I thought it was a movies only download kind of thing.

Netflix is streaming video content, delivered over the Internet. You don't download anything - you just use either a computer or a streaming device like Apple TV or Roku to connect to the Internet and watch whatever you want, just like cable TV except you control the time and place you want to watch rather than letting the cable channels do it. The Netflix servers push the content out to you in real-time.

Netflix requires a decent quality broadband Internet connection and it doesn't have "everything". It does have a lot of recent movies and TV shows, including international content. But for $9.95 a month, it will save you a fortune on cable TV bills and DVD/Blu-ray rentals or purchases.

I was a skeptic about streaming video at first, but Netflix and Dramafever (Korean/Asian movies/TV) have changed my mind.

79 posted on 03/11/2015 11:31:16 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: djf

Been off landlines since 2005.


80 posted on 03/11/2015 11:31:21 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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