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Train carrying crude oil derails in Canada
Fuel Fix ^ | March 7, 2015 | Associated Press

Posted on 03/08/2015 1:27:15 PM PDT by thackney

A CN Rail train carrying crude oil derailed early Saturday in northern Ontario, causing numerous tank cars to catch fire and spill into a local river system, officials said.

It was the third CN oil train derailment in northern Ontario in less than a month, and the second in the same area, renewing concerns about the safety of shipping crude oil by train and further suggesting that new safety requirements for tank cars carrying flammable liquids are inadequate. CN said the cars had been retrofitted with protective shields to meet a higher safety standard known as the 1232.

The new standard was enacted in Canada after a fiery derailment of a Montreal, Maine & Atlantic oil train derailment in July 2013 in the center of Lac-Megantic, Quebec , killed 47 people, but oil trains meeting the new standard continue to derail and catch fire throughout North America.

Ontario Provincial Police said no injuries were reported in the derailment that occurred at about 2:45 a.m. about 2.5 miles (4 kilometers) southwest of Gogama, Ontario, which is about 50 miles (80 kilometers) south of Timmins.

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TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: derail; energy; oil; rail
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To: CARTOUCHE
Either CN trackage needs attention badly or there may be an effort to cause trouble by the environmental types by tampering with the tracks, signals, switches or all of the above.

CSX, too.

Sure seems to be a lot of this stuff lately.

21 posted on 03/08/2015 1:47:13 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Paladin2

Good fishing in Gogama! Used to get up there once a year.


22 posted on 03/08/2015 1:49:45 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: TLI

Nice sunset pic.


23 posted on 03/08/2015 1:49:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Repeal The 17th

It’s actually just a thermal event.


24 posted on 03/08/2015 1:50:47 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: thackney

Are these derailments on a published schedule?

Who is suing George Soros for his railcars destruction of the environment?


25 posted on 03/08/2015 1:50:51 PM PDT by G Larry (Our culture is caving to every whiney 3 year old in the room.)
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To: thackney

Crude Oil (Brent) -1.24%


26 posted on 03/08/2015 1:51:29 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: uncitizen

Not to worry, this story is impossible.

At $80 per barrel, the environmentalists told us that substituting rail for the Keystone pipeline was “uneconomic” and the oil would be left in the ground. At $100 per barrel, they continued to argue that rail was “uneconomic” and stopping the Keystone would hold down production from the oil sands of Alberta.

So now that oil is $50 per barrel, it is simply impossible to the environmentalists for Alberta oil to be shipped by rail at a profit.


27 posted on 03/08/2015 1:51:41 PM PDT by Qout
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To: cripplecreek

only one pipeline was derailed last month, it was the Keystone and it was derailed by presidential veto.


28 posted on 03/08/2015 2:03:27 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: CARTOUCHE
"Either CN trackage needs attention badly or there may be an effort to cause trouble by the environmental types by tampering with the tracks, signals, switches or all of the above."

I would be much less suspicious if we had one or two trains derail carrying grain, or something.

29 posted on 03/08/2015 2:05:09 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: thackney

Very common, indeed.


30 posted on 03/08/2015 2:05:15 PM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: cripplecreek

Funny how the media carries these derailment stories more than other ones.

Of course, if they really are more frequent than others, one could also suspect sabotage. Energy prices are not “necessarily skyrocket(ing)” but going the other direction because of what these trains carry, never mind the pipeline that can be so casually vetoed.


31 posted on 03/08/2015 2:06:22 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Repeal The 17th

Torn metal from these wrecks can be hot enough in spots to cause ignition.


32 posted on 03/08/2015 2:06:43 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney; cripplecreek

I wonder when the anti-pipeline folks will accuse the pro-Keystone Pipeline interests of causing these train derailments?


33 posted on 03/08/2015 2:06:44 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Flag_This
I would be much less suspicious if we had one or two trains derail carrying grain, or something.

Based upon your comment, you would likely be amazed at how oftern that happens. It just doesn't catch fire and make the news.

34 posted on 03/08/2015 2:09:23 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Flag_This

This has been discussed on FR before. There are several derailments a day in the US, and many more “reportable incidents.”


35 posted on 03/08/2015 2:11:35 PM PDT by hlmencken3 (“I paid for an argument, but you’re just contradicting!”)
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To: cripplecreek

But more importantly, spills due to pipeline breaks are limited due to shutoff valves that slam shut as soon as a break is detected.


36 posted on 03/08/2015 2:14:43 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: thackney

Thank God we have The Won and his green moron fiends, er friends, to protect us from those dangerous pipelines and make sure all that oil travels by rail!


37 posted on 03/08/2015 2:30:43 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: thackney

RE: torn, hot, metal...
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Certainly understood, oh font of knowledge of all things petroleum related.
(I say that seriously, as I have much respect for your posts)

In the wood products business, we have had devastating fires
originating from something as simple as wood dust/debris
and the heat from friction around a pulley on a conveyor belt.

I was just making note that the expense of upgrading to the new
mandated “safe” railcar standards did not prevent this fire.
The standards, of course, were not intended
to make the railcars less susceptible to “fire”, they were
to make the railcars less susceptible to “leaks”.

When someone says that something “caught fire”,
I always wonder ... “who threw it?”
Kinda like when one person will say, “the house burned down.”
and another person will say, “the house burned up.”
It is just a curiosity in our common language.


38 posted on 03/08/2015 2:32:01 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy, and he is us.)
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To: GreyFriar

Excellent!


39 posted on 03/08/2015 2:41:34 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: Made In The USA
What if we had some other way to transport the oil.... maybe a pipeline?

If it was in Ontario then I doubt it was headed for the U.S. so a pipeline like Keystone wouldn't have made a difference.

40 posted on 03/08/2015 2:45:12 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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