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New Zealand spying on Pacific islands, Snowden leaks say
BBC ^ | 5 March 2015 Last updated at 02:34 ET | BBC

Posted on 03/05/2015 4:16:53 AM PST by WhiskeyX

New Zealand is conducting mass surveillance over its Pacific neighbours, reports citing documents leaked by US whistleblower Edward Snowden say.

Calls, emails and social media messages were being collected from Pacific nations, the New Zealand Herald said.

The data was shared with other members of the "Five Eyes" network - the US, Australia, Britain and Canada.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Canada; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: australia; canada; edwardsnowden; espionage; newzealand; snowden; spynotwhistleblower; unitedkingdom
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To: WayneS

Maybe they have a Belichick type coaching the All Blacks and they are spying on the other Rugby teams.


21 posted on 03/05/2015 10:09:18 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: DesertRhino

New Zealand does this because it secures it access to intelligence from the other four nations involved in the program. And that intelligence can come from countries that are a threat.

New Zealand does have valid national security concerns. It has put troops into Afghanistan and Iraq over the last decade and a half, and there are plenty of nations that don’t like that. But there’s also cases like the Rainbow Warrior where agents of the French government carried out a bombing in the heart of New Zealand.

French nuclear testing in the South Pacific area, has also lead to genuine tensions at times.

But most of all, this is about New Zealand being a good ally to the larger nations most important to its security. Since it upset a lot of its security relationship with the United States with its stance on nuclear weapons and refusing to allow access to its ports to USN ships unless they declare no such weapons are aboard (which the USN will not do), maintaining the other parts of the relationship is absolutely critical to the national security and defence of New Zealand.


22 posted on 03/05/2015 11:52:19 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

“New Zealand does this because it secures it access to intelligence from the other four nations involved in the program. And that intelligence can come from countries that are a threat.”

Bingo and that is covered below:

Technically, the five countries which make up FiveEyes, can’t spy on their own people. So they spy on other countries and share the data with their FiveEye countries.

Go to the search link below to read about FiveEyes and Echelon:

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1AFAB_enUS489US567&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=five+eyes+echelon+network&revid=1151210377


23 posted on 03/05/2015 1:11:34 PM PST by Grampa Dave (When will Sisi, Bibi, King Abdullah & ?, take out Isis in our White House, AG Dept, CIA, & State?)
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To: Grampa Dave

I was referring to PREDATOR, IIRC. I tried to look it up in the book that was published about it by a former CSIS agent, but I can’t lay my hands on it right now. The project exploited the ability to collect telecommunication services microwave transmissions and sort the digitized voice and other collected traffic using IBM mainframe computers.

As I understand it ECHELON and CARNOVORE, for another example, covered other aspects of the signals intelligence.


24 posted on 03/05/2015 5:16:58 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Correction: CARNIVORE


25 posted on 03/05/2015 5:17:52 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Interesting re the names, predator/carnivore versus Echelon and FiveEyes.


26 posted on 03/05/2015 6:03:54 PM PST by Grampa Dave (When will Sisi, Bibi, King Abdullah & ?, take out Isis in our White House, AG Dept, CIA, & State?)
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To: WhiskeyX

Interesting re the names, predator/carnivore versus Echelon and FiveEyes.


27 posted on 03/05/2015 6:03:57 PM PST by Grampa Dave (When will Sisi, Bibi, King Abdullah & ?, take out Isis in our White House, AG Dept, CIA, & State?)
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To: Grampa Dave

See also:

PROMIS
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/052401_promis.html

Raw List of NSA Nicknames and Codewords
https://decryptedmatrix.com/raw-list-of-nsa-nicknames-and-codewords/


28 posted on 03/05/2015 6:44:00 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WayneS; DesertRhino; tx_eggman
Yeah, NZ is on the verge of invasion from the Maoris,,,

The Maoris are from New Zealand. It is not possible for them to invade.


Hey, did we give up when the Nazis bombed Pearl Harbor?!? Don't stop him, he's on a roll...
29 posted on 03/06/2015 2:07:04 PM PST by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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