Easy-street ping.
Posted on 03/01/2015 5:34:21 AM PST by expat_panama
Easy-street ping.
Will the government keep pushing funny money into the banks and thus into the stock market?That’s what’s driving it upinto fantasyland. So long as the market rises it is a good thing for us back here in the real world that don’t have money in the market. It keeps the prices of turnips and spark plugs from going up in tandem with the inflation that has been happening big time since 08.
Time to buy this little gem?
http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=MUTF:GRZZX
Grizzly Short Fund
(MUTF:GRZZX)
I have no confusion about this at all. And I don’t think the market will crash because it will be manipulated to the point where it can’t crash.
Here is a simple thought problem. The axiom is that the markets are ruled by their indexes, because that is what the vast majority of investors see. If you can manipulate the indexes, you can prevent the indexes from ever collapsing.
It only needs a few things to pull this off.
1) You have to be able to act very quickly, and secretly, so that no one can see your blatant manipulation. The FED can do this, because their actions are invisible and only the outcomes of those actions are visible.
2) You have to have the force to act, meaning lots of money, in the tens of billions of dollars, and the willingness to act without fear of losing it all, because it is not your money.
Bye, bye Miss American Pie......
May a phoenix rise from her ashes.
What that sounds like is that the mere fact that there's no record anywhere of the Fed buying stocks, is proof positive that the Fed's buying stocks. That's the same reasoning used to prove that we're being controlled by invisible black helicopters.
What could it be? How about if people avoid banks and a lot of wealth goes into metals, valuables, or in the mattress (so to speak). I could see that happening if the gov makes moves to gain control of retirement money or those near-zero interest rates don't turn around soon. If that happens, people will spend less and horde more.
Just a thought. I've been trying to self-teach myself about what a meltdown of the economy would actually look like from a financial standpoint. It does seem that some of what I hypothesized is happening already.
The S&P, Naz and Russell 2k consolidated for nearly 2 months, so this new uptrend could have nice legs up until Down 20,000. What’s interesting however, is that Gold and Oil looks as if they’ve bottomed. Gold had an outstanding week.
Ya know, it’s great that the fund exists —what happens is that folks who’re convinced that a crash is coming end up having to explain why they’re not buying Grizzly.
I did get a sell signal yesterday, LOL. My coffee drinking buddy who’s been telling me for 2 years that the market’s about to crash said yesterday it looks to him like it’s going up higher.
True, we've got a good short term trend. For the year gold's down ten percent so our longer term remains dodgy...
Hmmm. iirc back in the beginning of '29 JPMorgan was getting his shoes shined by a young man that was raving about all the money he'd put into stocks. That's what convinced Morgan that the market was totally saturated and he promptly sold everything.
What “central bank?” Don’t say “The Federal Reserve,” because in order to be a central bank, the Fed would have to be an arm of the government, and answerable to the people.
Actually there has been considerable evidence going way back to when some trader noted stock manipulations being done late at night involving huge trades that only lasted for a fraction of a second before they were canceled. Yet these trades strongly biased the statistics of those stocks which other traders and computers use to make their buys and sells.
It also goes to interest. Traders either want stocks to rise or fall, a little or a lot, based on futures, active trades, and derivatives. Market stability is only good for dividends, and only for those companies that are oriented towards paying dividends, which doesn’t include entire market sectors.
So the bottom line is that other than a minority of traders, only the FED and the Treasury are interested in an over-stabilized market. And they are the only organizations with both deep pockets and the ability to trade silently.
The icing on the cake is market volume. When events like these manipulations take place, volume is usually way below normal on that day. This indicates the big players are staying out because they don’t want to get nailed by betting against the FED.
Google the PPT plunge protection team is a real organization that went full throttle in 2008 and has never backed down. You can actually see their actions watch the standard and Poor index at 2 hours until closing on a down day you often see a sudden uptick one hour before closing after an all day negative session that takes it to just below neutral or slightly positive. it has been proven to be the fed working through the PPT. Our markets are 100% minulapited by the federal reserve and member banks and several large overseas market makers to smooth out the “normal” market forces.
Off hours purchases by the Federal reserve --had to have been on say, the Tokyo exchange. You have a link by any chance --or at least a date, price and stock ticker?
--and failed to prevent stocks plunging another 20% in '09.
People like to think the government is all powerful and many of those people think the government can run everyone's work day. Not a chance. OK so the U.S. gov't seems pretty big but compared to the American people it's small potatoes.
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