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How an Obscure Rule Could Give Boehner a Way Out of DHS Mess (Updated)
Roll Call ^ | 02-28-2015 | Niels Lesniewski

Posted on 02/28/2015 3:06:49 PM PST by Kevin in California

A provision tucked deep in the House rule book could provide a way out of the Homeland Security funding mess for Speaker John A. Boehner — without the Ohio Republican actually having to do anything.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; boehner; dhs; dhsfundingbill; illegals
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Sadly, the orange man will not take this route.
1 posted on 02/28/2015 3:06:49 PM PST by Kevin in California
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To: Kevin in California
If it were to prevail, Democratic aides told CQ Roll Call that Republicans think the plan could protect Boehner from blame that he “caved” to his party’s moderates. Boehner and his allies could just point to House Rules and parliamentary procedure, however obscure and arcane, to explain what just occurred ostensibly beyond his control.

So it is a plan to not get blamed for losing, not a plan to win.

2 posted on 02/28/2015 3:19:27 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Kevin in California

http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/house-rule-boehner-dhs-appropriations-shutdown/?dcz=

...there was talk Friday night from senior House Democratic aides of Republicans having found a face-saving procedural gambit that would ultimately end in full funding for Department of Homeland Security for the remainder of the fiscal year.


3 posted on 02/28/2015 3:20:30 PM PST by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: Kevin in California

It looks to me like that “route” would give the Dems what they want and keep Boehner from getting blamed....not much of a bargain as far as I can see


4 posted on 02/28/2015 3:20:49 PM PST by woofie
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To: Kevin in California
"In other words, any House lawmaker, arguing that a conference scenario is moot and won’t be resolved before the clock runs out on the current extension of DHS funding, could take to the floor and move that the House recedes from its previous position and concurs in the Senate amendment.

Because such a motion is “privileged” that would then trigger a vote on sending the Senate-amended full year Homeland Security appropriations bill to Obama’s desk without any of those riders designed to block his executive actions on immigration.

If it were to prevail, Democratic aides told CQ Roll Call that Republicans think the plan could protect Boehner from blame that he “caved” to his party’s moderates. Boehner and his allies could just point to House Rules and parliamentary procedure, however obscure and arcane, to explain what just occurred ostensibly beyond his control."

Coward's way out.

These kinds of rules and insider manuevering contribute to the public's disgust with congress and the senate.

Just do the jobs you were elected to do.


5 posted on 02/28/2015 3:22:18 PM PST by Iron Munro (Mark Steyn: "fundamentally transformed" is a euphemism for "wrecked beyond repair.")
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To: Vince Ferrer

It is pretty typical. The only time Boehner, and McConnell actually fight hard, is when they are fighting their own party. But make no mistake, this week long delay is for nothing more than Republican leadership to try and limit fallout from their surrender.


6 posted on 02/28/2015 3:22:56 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: Kevin in California
without the Ohio Republican actually having to do anything.

I don't know, it sounds like something he could actually pull off.

7 posted on 02/28/2015 3:24:36 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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FReepers! Let's go!
Every donation
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Let's Git-R-Done!

8 posted on 02/28/2015 3:27:06 PM PST by RedMDer (Keep Free Republic Alive with YOUR Donations!)
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To: Kevin in California

The only time Tammy Faye and Mitchie the Kid fight hard is to hang on to their cushy positions.


9 posted on 02/28/2015 3:29:54 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Principled

Some democrat aid found the rule. Nancy called her friend boner and told him she had a way out for him. He started bawling and begging:

“Please, get me out of this.
I don’t know what to do.
Please, help me, Nancy.
boo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo “


10 posted on 02/28/2015 3:31:07 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy. And so are RINO voters.)
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To: Kevin in California

True leaders take ownership, they are responsible, and they are accountable. They do not look for ways to shift blame onto others and to not ‘offend’ anyone. They identify their objective, identify their opposition, and engage the the enemy with a winner’s attitude. What they do NOT do is surrender before the fact or at the first hint of resistance. They do not run from a fight. If they get smacked down, they get up, rally their allies, and reengage. They do not concede ground, they take ground, and then go after more. They communicate what it is they are doing to rally support. Bottom line is: Have a plan; have several plans. SURRENDER is NOT a plan.


11 posted on 02/28/2015 3:32:23 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: Kevin in California

If he takes this route, then all will know that he is an enemy of the Republic.


12 posted on 02/28/2015 3:44:26 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: Kevin in California

So they’re going to try and hide behind the House rulebook eh?


13 posted on 02/28/2015 3:49:05 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Exacted, so that must be what’s in the offing.


14 posted on 02/28/2015 4:01:00 PM PST by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: BlackAdderess

Exactly (what is up with autocorrect?!)


15 posted on 02/28/2015 4:02:12 PM PST by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: Kevin in California
Sadly, the orange man will not take this route.

Are you kidding? Boehner will be all over this like a fly on poop. It gives him the out he's looking for.

16 posted on 02/28/2015 4:03:29 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Kevin in California

A vote of no-confidence in Boehner’s leadership, I say; don’t let the door hit ya where the dog shoulda bit ya.


17 posted on 02/28/2015 4:14:49 PM PST by Patriot777 (Imagine....that we could see Obama being hauled out of the White House kicking and screaming?)
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To: Patriot777

Personelly I’ve always favored...don’t let the door hit ya where the lord split ya.


18 posted on 02/28/2015 4:32:03 PM PST by chemical_boy
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To: Kevin in California

It is sad that these clowns are always making decisions at the midnight hour? My 6 year old kid plans ahead better than these (ahem) educated, seasoned politicians! Term limits enacted 20 years ago would have solved all of these problems.


19 posted on 02/28/2015 5:06:01 PM PST by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: Vince Ferrer
That's the same jackass plan McConnell had in separating DHS from the amnesty bill. Quote:

"I don't know what's not to like about this," McConnell said. "This is an approach that respects both points of view and gives senators an opportunity to go on record on both, both funding the Department of Homeland Security and expressing their opposition to what the president did last November."

Is there anyone besides McConnell and the press who don't see how pathetically infantile this is?

The Democrats play to win while Republicans play because they like to play and even more they like to be liked.

McConnell could use the nuclear option---I think it is available for legislation as well as Presidential appointments---and win every consequential battle that arises.

Instead he'd rather lose and be loved by the Democrats and the traitorous Republicans, which are most of them.

20 posted on 02/28/2015 5:17:32 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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