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Scientists are wrong all the time, and that’s fantastic
Hotair.com ^ | 2-27-15

Posted on 02/28/2015 10:28:40 AM PST by DeweyCA

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URL link to Wired at article. Scientists are people, just like everyone else, and they have their own prejudices, agendas, and personal incentives to advance themselves. Many are NOT objective in what they do. Getting grant money and improving their status is important to them and many will cut corners and "fudge" results.
1 posted on 02/28/2015 10:28:40 AM PST by DeweyCA
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Science needs skeptics for every theory. Its how science avoids dead end thought.


2 posted on 02/28/2015 10:36:05 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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The only people who think scientists are always right -- are scientists.

"I know I'm right -- this was peer reviewed!!"
"I know you're wrong -- yours wasn't even peer reviewed!"
"It's settled science!"
"Of course I'm right -- you're just a science denier!"
"Oh, you don't think so?? I suppose you also think the earth is flat!!"

Science today is often close-minded.

3 posted on 02/28/2015 10:37:24 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The dog days are over /The dog days are done/Can you hear the horses? /'Cause here they come)
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Beyond the shady operators who fudge their findings and who should be caught by peer review and repeatable results, at the center of science is the necessity that a hypothesis be falsifiable.


4 posted on 02/28/2015 10:37:29 AM PST by JimSEA
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Political scientists- warmingists et al can never be wrong because their science is based in ideology and thus has no connection to reality. The connection is to political power.


5 posted on 02/28/2015 10:37:59 AM PST by arthurus (it's true!)
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Grist for Mark Steyn’s mill.


6 posted on 02/28/2015 10:39:52 AM PST by buridan
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That’s why Global Climate Change is such a better scam than Global Cooling or Global Waming ever were. Global Climate Change can NEVER be proven wrong.

Whenever there is bad weather no matter what the weather happens to be it is because of Global Climate Change.


7 posted on 02/28/2015 10:42:21 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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Which is great... Right up until some Government empowered agent kills someone due to legislation passed based on bogus science.

Maybe if we had a government of truly limited powers, this wouldn't be such a sticky wicket.

8 posted on 02/28/2015 10:43:15 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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Ecologists aren’t real scientists... they need to be culled...


9 posted on 02/28/2015 10:43:29 AM PST by GOPJ (Comrade Thug - pleae don't hurt me for disagreeing... I lived in a free country once..)
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I definitely like how God messes with these guys.


10 posted on 02/28/2015 10:45:48 AM PST by freedom6178
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>> The problem with science isn’t that scientists can be wrong: It’s that when they’re proven wrong, it’s way too hard for people to find out.

Science is in so many regards political.


11 posted on 02/28/2015 10:46:39 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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A large part of being a Scientist is being able to Make things up as you go along


12 posted on 02/28/2015 10:51:00 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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My son just got his latest national geographic. Just despicable


13 posted on 02/28/2015 10:51:04 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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This is a very informative article for the layperson of science.

Popper’s theory and other scientific commentary articulate well that the difference between science and astrology as systematic bodies of reasoning is that science can be wrong whereas astrology is never wrong because it always has another explanation according to its zodiac.

With science there is true learning by trial and error. With astrology there is never trial and error, there is always another interpretation that fits so that true learning never takes place.

Let that sink in.


14 posted on 02/28/2015 10:52:39 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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The worst thing about climatology is the fact that too many people lump them in with real scientists.

Einstein was a great example of how theoretical sciences are supposed to work. He proposed his theory that gravity bends space/time/light and it set off a mad scramble by many others to prove or disprove his theory. He didn’t interfere, he just sat back and waited for others to provide evidence one way or the other.

He was also sometimes wrong and had no problem admitting it. He disagreed with Monseigneur Georges LeMaitre that the universe is expanding. Hubble came along and showed a red shift that indicated an expansion so Einstein declared that Lemaitre was probably correct.


15 posted on 02/28/2015 10:55:57 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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I see plenty of parallels between Global Warming and Darwinism. Neither can be proved wrong. There's always SOMETHING which allows the believer to hang on to their faith.

Now, one might say Idea #1 is a lot better science than Idea #2 -- but conversing with the two sets of believers is precisely the same experience. It's all insults, all emotion, all "you just don't understand/you reject science/I know the facts".

For me, Darwinism is not scientifically superior to Global Warming. They are religious cults and they refuse to be disproven by any evidence.

16 posted on 02/28/2015 11:01:14 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The dog days are over /The dog days are done/Can you hear the horses? /'Cause here they come)
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A lot of money has been squandered on Global Warming and Green Energy, and scientists are right in the middle of that scandal.

Every branch of science has its prejudices, its sacred cows, its blind spots. It takes a courageous person or a kook to step outside the lines. By discounting all of them as kooks, we are perhaps missing some brilliant out-of-the-box insights into nature.

I think most mistakes in science are honest mistakes, but the ones that are dishonest are often very costly.

Scientists are not always right, but unfortunately, they are usually ready to assert to their last breath that they are right. Scientists in powerful positions can be powerfully wrong.


17 posted on 02/28/2015 11:06:24 AM PST by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwel)
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It cracks me up that humanists see scientists as the priesthood of all truth.


18 posted on 02/28/2015 11:09:59 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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I remember studying the famous Michelson/Morley experiment in 8th grade (yes, 8th grade: we had very smart Sisters of St. Joseph for teachers)the the big point was: it was not an “unsuccessful” experiment. It “successfully” proved that their hypothesis abut ether was wrong.


19 posted on 02/28/2015 12:39:11 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Do to others whatever you would have them do to you. This is the law and the prophets." Matt. 7:12)
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Scientists do two things:

Define what we don’t know:”Well, that hypothesis was bad, we don’t have to look at it again.”

Define what is plausible: “Look this looks to be true!”

“The worst thing about climatology is the fact that too many people lump them in with real scientists.”

This is one of the real tragedies of the Global Warming Freaks, the claim that all scientists are in agreement. Most of them know it is wrong and have started to push back.

Most science is not at all political. They just deal with the plausible explanations for processes and do not wish to have politics enter their universe.

I know this because I have a number of acquaintances who do science. Good science. Science which is sometimes proven wrong. Other times it is used to do other things, which is the real test of science.


20 posted on 02/28/2015 12:53:44 PM PST by buffaloguy
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