Posted on 02/28/2015 5:52:23 AM PST by cotton1706
That’s what I was saying.
If I was in the house, the only compromise I can see that we could get both parties to vote for is.....
Is remove the defunding aspect but insert a criminal aspect indicating that anyone violating the law, court order, or the vested power of Congress from the Constitution is subject to 10 Years in a Federal Prison.
Since the Democrats insist what Obama is doing is legal, it will be hard to argue why they can’t vote for it.
Anyone in the US Government will fear to follow orders on immigration, Obama has less than 2 years, and they can be prosecuted as soon as he is gone.
The problem goes beyond Boehner. It is the entire leadership in the House and Senate, the RNC, and far too many RINOs who have control at the state and local levels of the GOP.
Ted’s in the Senate. I’ll go with Louis Gohmert.
Boehner was no more elected than any other Rep. Each one has one vote, equal power under the Constitution, so why do they act like conservatives have no rights in the House?
Bevin was unfortunately too weak. Still, he took more than 40% of the vote against an embedded incumbent.
The problem with incumbency is that the local powers get benefits and kickbacks from the incumbent thereby solidifying the incumbent’s position. Removing an incumbent that has inured in the position takes a strategic usage of money to buy off the local powers or defeat them.
Campaign ad expenses only go so far. Wars are won by amassing allies from disparate sources and by ruining uncooperative local powers; for example, taking out their union or shutting down their business.
A dictum that is forever true is “Money is the Mother’s Milk of Politics”. The challenge is to use it in maintaining American values and principles without selling out.
Money is a factor but is not always the deciding factor. Strategy decides the victor and money is a factor in that.
In late 2008 the Tea Party groups peaked in number at about 70 million. This scared the living daylights out of the establishment syndicate because a small $10 donation from those numbers could blow away any other organized political entity. This fear is what prompted the divide and conquer media campaign as well as the illegal IRS persecution against Tea Party affiliates.
Bevin didn’t quite have it together strategically or financially.
One way to remove the McConnell’s of federal politics is through term limits but there are problems with this approach. One, Congress will never pass term limits on itself so it needs to come from outside as in an Article V movement via an organization like the Convention of States (COS) Project. Two, the Oligarchy (groups with near unlimited funds) will buy and pose both ‘R’ and ‘D’ candidates giving the illusion of political competition when in fact they control the game regardless of party label; “choose candidate A or candidate B, both are our guys”. Three, Getting state legislative delegates to vote via Article V for term limits can lead to an unending argument and debate about how many years should be the limit. Should it be 6, 12, 18? Getting 34 states to propose and 38 states to ratify on how many years to term limit may be an impossible task. It’s better to leave it open-ended and simply include the word ‘shall’ in the amendment. For example, State legislatures ‘shall’ establish a term limit for each of their US Senators but in no case shall be less than 6 years (or 12 years, etc.).
For those reading and considering to participate, read here:
http://www.conventionofstates.com/
But first a must-view is Mark Levin’s tour-de-force speech before ALEC at a conference organized by the COS Project:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdZuV8JnvvA
Does the Speaker of the House have to be a member of the House? If not, I nominate Andrew Wilkow.
Mitch is horrible for sue, I’d love to see him out on the street.
But Reid is worse.
Actually, what we need to do is work on dispelling the myth that the House or Senate is a block, one mind to rule.
The media got into this group think a while back, “Republicans should get along with Democrats to get anything done” or “It’s bad bad bad to have conservatives challenge moderates in party” or whatever.
These are each accountable to their District or State to represent those people. They are in no way tied to each other’s actions.
And so is the GOPe, so is the UK, Irish, South African, Australian, NZ and Canadian media and political establishments, as well as the French-language EU media and political establishment (I don't read German, so I don't know about the German media).
The propositions that fueled the 2010 Tea Party phenomenon threaten the entire Western globalized world order. If a "tea party" government ever came to power in the US, the US would be at war with the whole world within six months.
You don't think that after 150 years of struggle, marked by victory after victory, and now (as they see it) on the cusp of conquering the Great Enemy, that the progressive left (including the GOPe) is going to let the "stupid voters" of the US screw it all up, do you?
I can’t believe Reid is the only turd who’s had his ass seriously kicked.
And don’t buy that fable where a piece of exercise equipment got the better of him.
Not that I’d advocate for this on any or ALL our representatives.
Charlie Dent is a lying, self-serving weasel.
Before getting too excited about replacing Boehner, it would be good to have an idea on WHO would replace him.
They need to be conservative AND effective.
The quicker we get rid of Boehner and McConnell the better off everyone will be.
they had an ideal excuse to let the situation ride by being able to point to the house democrats refusing to vote for the senate version. the continuing resolution just allows defeat to be snatched from the jaws of victory and allow articles like this as usual to blame Republican conservatives for everything under the sun.
the atlantic article has some more detail on what happened and why:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/house-homeland-security-shutdown/386438/
these guys seem to be depending on the 5th circuit to come to their rescue. what if it does not? these guys seem to be bought and paid for and use every little bump in the road as an excuse to prove it.
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