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Making the Moral Case for Fossil Fuels
am thinker ^ | 2/28/15 | j levy

Posted on 02/28/2015 5:27:41 AM PST by bestintxas

In the anti-fracking film Gasland, producer Josh Fox proclaims that the process of extracting previously inaccessible oil and gas from shale pollutes water supplies, increases the incidence of cancer and leads to higher levels of seismic activity, despite ample contrary evidence. This self-proclaimed environmental watchdog and anti-fracking crusader has led extensive efforts to end or prevent fracking throughout the United States by obfuscating the truth and stopping communities from reaping the benefits of America's shale boom. Josh Fox and others like him are uninterested in looking for improvements in fracking technology and safety. Instead they seek to shut down shale exploration and other fossil fuel extraction altogether.

In his recent book, The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels, Alex Epstein challenges the ethical bias of environmentalists who oppose fossil-fuel use and deftly argues that fossil fuels have vastly improved the planet and the lives of its human inhabitants. He contends that a human-centric moral value that supports the well-being and prosperity of human beings ranks on a higher ethical plain than the utopian, environmentalist ideal of a "wild" earth or environment absent little or no human impact. Epstein's moral position is that man should serve human beings, not nature, and that it is wrong-headed and misguided to view man as a destructive force meriting punishment for cultivating the environment for his benefit. With fossil fuels, limiting their use creates reduced economic prosperity, higher levels of human starvation, lower life expectancies and higher rates of infant mortality.

To environmentalists, any transformation of nature is inherently bad and man bears primary responsibility for negatively impacting nature in the quest to develop and utilize resources. Epstein counters this view with the assertion that man’s very

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; environmentalism; environmentalists; fossilfuels; fracking; naturalgas; oil
The enviro wackos, in their quest to return us to the stone age, conveniently forget that it is called 'natural' gas for a reason. It is as natural as a tree or a bird.

It is just one of the many gifts God gave man to make it on this earth.

1 posted on 02/28/2015 5:27:42 AM PST by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

“Environmental” activists want us all to live primitive, dirty, and disease-ridden lifestyles. Yet the environment is far cleaner in developed countries, where people have the desire and the means to keep the environment clean. You don’t find much concern over the environment where people are struggling to survive, where the fate of that old-growth forest is inconsequential compared to the need to find food for today.


2 posted on 02/28/2015 5:33:02 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: bestintxas
Tree huggers have finally shut down the Paradise Fossil Fuel Power Plant in my home county. They donated $10,000,000.00 per year to the county school board, above and beyond taxes and fees supporting them. Charity, which paid salaries and purchased equipment, structures and buses. So, I have a cousin with stage 4 cancer that teaches in this school system that is losing her job and good insurance. These tree huggers are going to kill her... literally.
3 posted on 02/28/2015 5:41:06 AM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: bestintxas

Gas land has been proven to be total Bull Merd. Should not even be discussed except for the lies it has perpetuated. And yes, I have a summer home in the Fracking zone and we all all alright thank you. You should see the economic calamity where I live the rest of the time, Southern Tier of NY where the growth industries are unemployment and heroin addiction. Thanks Prince Andrew.


4 posted on 02/28/2015 5:52:46 AM PST by Shady (We are at war again......this time for our lives...)
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To: bestintxas

Abiotic? My daughter is studying to be a geologist and I asked her what is said about this. She said they haven’t mentioned it. That they only study WHERE and HOW to find oil and gas, not where it comes from. Seems like a no-brainer to me that you would learn that FIRST.


5 posted on 02/28/2015 6:12:47 AM PST by texas_mrs
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To: bestintxas

Big Oil did more to save the whales than all the Environmental Groups put together. Until we found oil, the primary source of oil in the world was from whale blubber.


6 posted on 02/28/2015 6:19:29 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: exDemMom

And yet these same Environmental activists drive cars and fly a round in airplanes. Their version of saving the planet is bikes for you, Gulfstream 5 for me!


7 posted on 02/28/2015 6:38:06 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: bestintxas

Debunking GasLand
http://energyindepth.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Debunking-GasLand.pdf

The link above will address falsely shown topics in the movie Gasland such as:

Misstating the Law

Misrepresenting the Rules

Mischaracterizing the Process

Flat-Out Making Stuff Up

Recycling Discredited Points from the Past

Also see:

FLASHBACK: ENERGY EXPERTS DEBUNK ‘GASLAND’
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2013/04/24/flashback-debunking-gasland/

Fact Checking Josh Fox / Gasland, 1st Posting
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/02/1220728/-Fact-Checking-Josh-Fox-Gasland-1st-Posting

Josh Fox’s claim stating that the Society of Petroleum Engineers says that 35% of the world’s oil and gas wells are leaking is a total and complete fabrication.

Fact Checking Josh Fox/Gasland #2; Oil/Gas Industry NOT Exempt from Clean Air/Clean Water Acts
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/07/1221731/-Fact-Checking-Josh-Fox-Gasland-2-Oil-Gas-Industry-NOT-Exempt-from-Clean-Air-Clean-Water-Acts

Contrary to Gasland claims, there is no exemption contained in the Federal Clean Water Act that is a categorical exemption of the oil and gas industry from jurisdiction under the Act for hydraulic fracturing process wastewater.....another Gasland falsehood.

Fact Checking Josh Fox/Gasland #3-EPA Enforcement Case Shows Gas Industry Bust Under Clean Water Act
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/18/1224787/-Fact-Checking-Josh-Fox-Gasland-3-EPA-Enforcement-Case-Shows-Gas-Industry-Bust-Under-Clean-Water-Act

The enforcement action by EPA and DOJ could never have taken place if ExxonMobil’s hydraulic fracturing activities were exempt from the Clean Water Act as claimed in the Josh Fox conflation/fabrication bubble. If the oil and gas industry were exempted from the Clean Water Act, there would be no jurisdiction for those agency’s involvement in a federal Clean Water Act surface water discharge enforcement case.

What this illustrates for Democrats is that using the Gasland entertainment workproduct as a basis for any kind of decision about real world matters is like Democrats tolerating anti-science campaigns aimed at rejection of immunizations for public health protection or Democrats tolerating anti-abortion legislation promoted in an anti-science campaign really intended to drag all women down.

Gasland Debunked Even in New York Times!
http://www.jlcny.org/site/index.php/gasland-the-movie/586-gasland-debunked-even-in-new-york-times

Gasland’s Fracking Nonsense
http://www.energytribune.com/6907/gaslands-fracking-nonsense#sthash.Wqd4ymiI.dpbs


8 posted on 02/28/2015 7:17:14 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: texas_mrs
Abiotic? My daughter is studying to be a geologist and I asked her what is said about this.

Ask her if oil/gas is ever found sourced outside of sedimentary basins, and what that means to the source of the material.

9 posted on 02/28/2015 7:18:46 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: bestintxas

This is not a criticism of you but the excerpt you posted doesn’t give a moral case for use of fossil fuels.

The writer and most other opinion writers waste our time discussing the good guys and the bad guys and the smart guys and the dumb guys.


10 posted on 02/28/2015 7:22:09 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: cymbeline

Example for the thread discussion:

...Epstein applauds fossil fuels’ many benefits in developed countries and contrasts impoverished societies with their unreliable and low levels of fossil-fuel resources and utilization and the resulting poor sanitation, rampant disease, limited food production, and minimal transportation of goods. A poignant example is a hospital in Gambia, where infant mortality rates are extremely high due to lack of electric power for ultrasound machines to diagnose in-utero problems and incubators to save the lives of premature babies.

Epstein cites data showing that the more fossil fuels are used, the fewer deaths occur from droughts, floods, storms and other climate-related disasters....


11 posted on 02/28/2015 8:09:54 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: exDemMom
“Environmental” activists want us all to live primitive, dirty, and disease-ridden lifestyles.

My reply to them is "You first"! Move to your sustainable solar-wind energy heated and cooled hut. Eschew all use of eeevil gas, oil, coal, and nuclear power. Do not eat anything that had to be transported with those eeevil fuels.

Oh, wait...windmills chop up the birdies, scratch the wind. Solar collectors cook the birdies...scratch the solar...hydroelectric inconveniences the fishies...scratch that...Starve and freeze in the dark.

12 posted on 02/28/2015 8:16:18 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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