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‘Traditional Marriage’ Disgusts NRO Writer
The American Conservative ^ | February 27, 2015 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 02/27/2015 5:27:36 PM PST by ConservativeTeen

Few things make me shudder quite like hearing someone use the phrase "traditional marriage" unironically.

— Katherine Timpf (@KatTimpf) February 27, 2015

This is one of those tiny but telling things. Katherine Timpf is a reporter for National Review Online. She’s a Millennial, a Hillsdale grad, and has published lots of things in right-of-center publications. And she’s a libertarian.

One is not at all surprised to find libertarians, especially libertarians in their twenties, supporting same-sex marriage. Nor is one surprised to find libertarians working at National Review. What I find startling, but a sign of the times, is that a National Review writer not only doesn’t support traditional marriage, but finds the term and concept viscerally disgusting.

A small thing, but a big thing too.

History is running right over the people standing athwart it yelling, “Stop!”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; katherinetimpf; nationalreview; ssm; traditionalmarriage
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1 posted on 02/27/2015 5:27:36 PM PST by ConservativeTeen
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To: ConservativeTeen

Sad. I subscribed to the magazine thirty years ago. It was rock ribbed.


2 posted on 02/27/2015 5:30:57 PM PST by skeeter
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To: ConservativeTeen

Heard a quasi libertarian on the radio give his support for gay marriage using the libertarian arguement live & let live not getting that gays aren’t on board with that idea as they seek to impose their sexuality on others like florists and bakers.


3 posted on 02/27/2015 5:32:09 PM PST by RginTN
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To: All

The feeling is mutual sweetcheeks.


4 posted on 02/27/2015 5:33:35 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: ConservativeTeen

I’d be willing to use the phrase ‘real marriage’ instead if that helps.


5 posted on 02/27/2015 5:36:32 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: ConservativeTeen

Is she soon to come Out?


6 posted on 02/27/2015 5:37:13 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else need s said?)
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To: SandRat
She is kinda cute..


7 posted on 02/27/2015 5:40:58 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: ConservativeTeen

The idea of same sex marriage disgusts me. I just can’t see two of us fat, ugly, hair gross males doing whatever it is that they do. On the other side if I were female I would probably be a lesbian and chase fat, ugly, hairy gross lesbians.


8 posted on 02/27/2015 5:42:08 PM PST by amnestynone (A big government conservative is just a corporatist who is not paying enough taxes.)
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To: ConservativeTeen

I subscribe to NR, but I do sense a shift there from trad. conservatism to laissez-faire libertarianism. Many of the writers are unconcerned about homo marriage, legalized drugs, or unrestricted immigration. I was really upset when Mark Steyn was forced out for his trad. conservative views on homo marriage (?) by Jason Steorts one of the new, fascist editors at NR.


9 posted on 02/27/2015 5:47:26 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: amnestynone

Yes, why is it OK for someone to say traditional marriage is disgusting? But its not OK to say that homosexual marriage is disgusting? Why not? Both are opinions. We have freedom of speech to express our opinions.

Yet we all know that you take great risks nowadays if you are a public figure,to say you are disgusted by homosexual marriage.


10 posted on 02/27/2015 5:48:44 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: MrShoop

Marie Harf’s sister


11 posted on 02/27/2015 5:50:14 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: skeeter

I subscribed to the magazine 30 years ago. I stopped that quite a while back, and gave up on NRO about 5 years ago. They neither know nor care about any conservative values.


12 posted on 02/27/2015 5:50:44 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: driftless2

I thought that Steyn was forced out because of the Michael Mann lawsuit.


13 posted on 02/27/2015 5:50:55 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: ConservativeTeen

The word “marriage” has been co-opted by the Left.

The way to take it back is to ban it as a legal term.

Conservatives should push for a fedearl law that limits the government to “civil” unions” alone.

The argument is simple and absolute: no use of the word “marriage” is separate from people’s spiritual and religious beliefs, and no church or spiritual tradition means the same thing by the word, or has the same ceremony. Therefore, the word “marriage” can only have meaning by stating what religion or tradition or belief system is exists under: Catholic marriage, Protestant (Methodist, Lutheran, Anglican, Presbyterian, Baptsist, etc.) marriage, Hindu marriage, Taoist marriage, Jewish marriage, etc., including atheist marriage, LGBTQQIAAP marriage, etc.

In contrast, the legal term “civil union” must have the same meaning for everyone under the law.

Think about it - what, in fact, the Left has claimed is not in any way the conquering of the churches, but the conquering of calling civil unions “marriage” under the law. That’s the only thing that needs to be changed.

So if you get maried in a church, you also would file a civil union with government for tax and other government recognitions. Or if you refused a church, you could still file a civil union status with the government.

What this is describing is not new or different - it’s exactly what is going on right now. But the word “marriage” is being wrongly applied to this civil union phenomenon. In the past, marriage was always filed with the church and not the government. The only reason it was ever filed wit the government was for government services, like pensions, etc. But originally, the marriage was in the church, and the status was filed with the government - the government did not actually create the marriage.

And - it still doesn’t. it only acknowledges civil unions. Marriage has to do with uniting people in love, before God. Government has nothing to do with either - not with God, and not with love. Therefore, conservatives must take word marriage away from government. Put it back where it belogns, in the churches, connected to its specific form of belief.

That’s how you beat the Left on this issue.


14 posted on 02/27/2015 5:53:09 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ConservativeTeen

Google their executive editor Reihan Salam, but take a deep breath first.


15 posted on 02/27/2015 5:55:52 PM PST by odawg
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To: ConservativeTeen

The name of the disaster over at National Review is Jason Lee Steorts (always uses the “Lee” for some reason unrelated to “Robert E.”). He’s an Ivy League liberal who threw Mark Steyn under the bus. Evidently he blackmailed his way into the ranks of the so-called conservatives, and the magazine has gone downhill ever since.


16 posted on 02/27/2015 5:57:46 PM PST by madprof98
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To: MrShoop

Got that Harf look going. The “stupid” glasses give it away, with a manly look. Now to hear her speak.

Noticed that the Wash Times video update person, Sawyer, sounds just like Harf or worse like a Valley girl who can barely read.


17 posted on 02/27/2015 5:57:53 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: ConservativeTeen

Poor baby. Just wait until that clock starts ticking..


18 posted on 02/27/2015 5:58:30 PM PST by Trillian
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To: driftless2

Jason must have read their secret files.


19 posted on 02/27/2015 5:58:37 PM PST by madprof98
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To: ConservativeTeen

The LIBERALS ... and ... the LIBERTARIANS are going to,destroy this society!


20 posted on 02/27/2015 6:00:03 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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