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Historic vote set for Internet rules
The Hill ^ | February 26, 2015 | Julian Hattem and Mario Trujillo

Posted on 02/26/2015 4:48:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

"....Supporters of the legislative effort say only an act of Congress can provide the certainty needed to make the rules stick.

“I’m concerned that, if Congress does not act, all protection for network neutrality is at risk of being lost,” said former Rep. Rick Boucher (D-Va.), who unsuccessfully worked on a net neutrality bill during his time in office.

“Without statutory protection, the net neutrality guarantees can be swept away in the next presidential election,” he added, assuming a Republican wins the White House in 2016 and nominates FCC commissioners opposed to the new rules....."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freespeech; internet; media; netneutrality
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To: boycott

I know a lot of liberals (I don’t associate with them) whose “beliefs” have been stomped on by Obama. From the SC appointment of Sotomayor to amnesty to screwing with the internet. Yet they still support him. I believe if he ran today he’d still get enough votes that he’d only need about 5% fraud in a few states to win a third time.


21 posted on 02/26/2015 6:35:05 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy. And so are RINO voters.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“If the FCC tries to move forward with this net nonsense, it isn’t going to stand,” pledged Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas). “The courts won’t allow it; Congress won’t allow it.””

Go Joe!


22 posted on 02/26/2015 6:40:32 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: ReganDude

You are 100% misguided.

Anti-free-speech legislation will quickly be introduced... oh, I’m sorry, we don’t do that any more. Obama will quickly sign an Executive Order that will ban Hate Speech and Terrorism Speech.

The definition of those will be: Any criticism of Muslims. Any criticism of gays. Any criticism of the Orwellian Police State. Distribution of any news not coming from the Communist Propaganda Organs of CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, the NYT, the WP, or the LAT. Blockages of the often-insightful news coming from England.

The FCC will be granted SWAT teams, and they will be used to kill and arrest anyone who dissents from the official propaganda line. And you know what? You will never hear about those raids. That will be forbidden news, too.

We are now to be 100% just like the Soviet Union, in absolutely every way.


23 posted on 02/26/2015 6:42:43 AM PST by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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To: Lazamataz
If you like your Lazamataz, you will be able to keep your Lazamataz. Period.

If you like your dissent, you will be able to keep your dissent. Period.

No one will take them away. No matter what.


24 posted on 02/26/2015 6:45:36 AM PST by OwenKellogg (CRUZ or LOSE!)
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To: goodnesswins

Actually, no.

Let’s say you have Verizon Internet. Without Net Neutrality, Verizon could slow your baud rate access to Free Republic only to allow faster access for those visiting CNN.

The government here, in ‘clock is right twice a day’ thinking, is saying that there should be complete equality in access. Sort of like a first come, first serve.

It really is that simple.


25 posted on 02/26/2015 6:48:37 AM PST by ReganDude (Give me liberty or give me death!! Cruz 2016!!)
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To: Lazamataz

What? That’s absolutely wrong.

Without Net Neutrality, under your example, any criticism of Muslims could allow for a convenient “slowing” of the baud rate to the sites that allow criticisms of Muslims.

And similarly, a Verizon Internet (or any ISP who doesn’t share similar values to yours)- if they don’t like your site content- could force the slowdown of your site while extorting you to spend more to be on their server.

It’s the other way around.


26 posted on 02/26/2015 6:52:35 AM PST by ReganDude (Give me liberty or give me death!! Cruz 2016!!)
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To: outinyellowdogcountry

There’s only 194 pages, and that’s mostly because of the large amount of footnottes: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-201A1_Rcd.pdf


27 posted on 02/26/2015 6:59:14 AM PST by ReganDude (Give me liberty or give me death!! Cruz 2016!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

28 posted on 02/26/2015 7:01:14 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: VerySadAmerican

I believe if he ran today he’d still get enough votes that he’d only need about 5% fraud in a few states to win a third time.


So true. That’s how stupid so many Americans are.

And, for some, as long as the welfare check arrives on time, they’re just fine. Sooner or later, the system is going to collapse.


29 posted on 02/26/2015 7:02:31 AM PST by boycott
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To: ReganDude
Well, let us see what you are for, here:
  1. You are for an unregulated medium to be taken over , illegally, and contrary to several court orders, by unaccountable bureaucrats -- as the FCC is doing.
  2. You are for the crafting of legislation in secret, only to be revealed after the vote is taken -- as the FCC is doing.
  3. You are for the head of the FCC refusing to appear before the House, as required.
  4. You are for the government 'solving' the (non-existant, BTW) 'problem' in a central-planning manner rather then letting the market solve it, as it always does.
And you have the gall to call yourself 'conservative'.
30 posted on 02/26/2015 7:16:49 AM PST by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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To: Lazamataz
The FCC will be granted SWAT teams, and they will be used to kill and arrest anyone who dissents from the official propaganda line. And you know what? You will never hear about those raids. That will be forbidden news, too.

The solution is preemptive self-defense. Locate the FCC bigwigs who will GIVE THE ORDERS to the SWAT teams and cause them to have "accidents" or simply disappear them. Repeat as needed with the next level of command.

Find them NOW, though; when they've seized full control of information it will become much more difficult.

31 posted on 02/26/2015 7:30:23 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: ReganDude
Additionally, you do not address any of my valid concerns, repeated again:
Anti-free-speech legislation will quickly be introduced... oh, I’m sorry, we don’t do that any more. Obama will quickly sign an Executive Order that will ban Hate Speech and Terrorism Speech.

The definition of those will be: Any criticism of Muslims. Any criticism of gays. Any criticism of the Orwellian Police State. Distribution of any news not coming from the Communist Propaganda Organs of CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, the NYT, the WP, or the LAT. Blockages of the often-insightful news coming from England.

The FCC will be granted SWAT teams, and they will be used to kill and arrest anyone who dissents from the official propaganda line. And you know what? You will never hear about those raids. That will be forbidden news, too.

This set of observations are much more important than your 'throttling' discussion. This is criminal legislation, and probably will involve killing dissenters. It is also very relevant because this FCC power grab reportedly has regulations on 'internet conduct'.

But they won't tell us until they pass it.

Which seems to bring you joy. You must be a RINO plant or some sort of stooge from the government.

32 posted on 02/26/2015 7:35:20 AM PST by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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To: ReganDude

You are even lying about the bill. What you cited is from 2010. This is 2015, and they won’t even SHOW us what’s in the bill, THIS go around.


33 posted on 02/26/2015 8:05:27 AM PST by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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To: Lazamataz
Left Wing blogs would be regulated and banned as well, because the Crony Communists only want Crony Communist news, not any outside sources left or right.
34 posted on 02/26/2015 8:06:00 AM PST by cowboyusa
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To: Lazamataz

Your example was flawed and you result to ad hominem attacks on my character? Classy.

First off, ISPs are regulated by the FTC. Should they be regulated by the FCC as a utility is the question here. I haven’t even said whether or not I think the should be regulated as a utility. You’re just assuming that since I’m in favor of Net Neutrality, that I agree with the FCC.

Under the Telecommunications Act of 1934, they have jurisdiction to regulate “communication by wire and radio.” According to the law as written, they have that power. If you don’t like it, that’s a different matter. And one that I haven’t even commented on before you accused me of being a liberal.

As far as being “for” the government “solving the non-existant (i.e.: nonexistent) problem in a central-planning manner,” I would argue that the only reason why it hasn’t become a problem is that it’s been tied up in court proceedings for a few years now.


35 posted on 02/26/2015 10:08:47 AM PST by ReganDude (Give me liberty or give me death!! Cruz 2016!!)
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To: Lazamataz

“The FCC will be granted SWAT teams”

Funny. I’ve never heard that before and I did an internet search of it.

Alex Jones is the first thing that pops up.

Well, I don’t believe in what Alex Jones has to say about it.


36 posted on 02/26/2015 10:13:36 AM PST by ReganDude (Give me liberty or give me death!! Cruz 2016!!)
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To: ReganDude
I have to agree with the government here.

I guarantee the Governments' definition of "Net Neutrality" won't be your definition of it. The camel's nose is in the tent.

37 posted on 02/26/2015 10:15:15 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: boycott
GOP leadership?

Talk about an oxymoron.

38 posted on 02/26/2015 10:17:25 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Without Net Neutrality, Comcast can continue to shakedown companies like Netflix for being TOO successful: http://qz.com/256586/the-inside-story-of-how-netflix-came-to-pay-comcast-for-internet-traffic/


39 posted on 02/26/2015 10:41:37 AM PST by ReganDude (Give me liberty or give me death!! Cruz 2016!!)
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To: ReganDude

Fear-Mongering, the market would take care of the problem without the need for government intervention.


40 posted on 02/26/2015 10:47:23 AM PST by dfwgator
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