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The F-14 Tomcats that never were vs F/A-18E/F Super Hornet: who would have won?
The Aviationist ^ | Feb 25 2015 | Dario Leone

Posted on 02/25/2015 9:52:46 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: AFreeBird

http://youtu.be/yfNX1kpF95Q


21 posted on 02/25/2015 11:07:44 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“What a freaking laugh. The regular Tomcat outclasses the Super Hornet any day of the week.”

In what manner? Range? Top speed? That’s about it. The Super Bug’s AESA radar is superior to the AWG-9 in every possible way. The Phoenix missile is irrelevant since it was a Potemkin piece of junk that never worked. It missed both times it was fired in anger. An old Navy Test buddy of mine that flew Tomcats confirmed this to me... “We really had the Soviets fooled with those things”. He spent enough time firing them at China Lake to know.

In the merge, there’s absolutely no comparison between the Tomcat and the Super Bug... the Bug is better in every respect. And the most important reason the Super Bug was chosen: operating costs. The Bug is far, far less expensive to operate and far easier to maintain. It’s also more versitile.


22 posted on 02/25/2015 11:13:15 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: ryan71
F-14 - Sophia Vergara
F-16 - Selena Gomez

F-15 - Salma Hayek

The perfect Sensuous Air Superiority Triumvirate.

23 posted on 02/25/2015 11:14:13 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?)
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To: taildragger
"And it pains me to say that being the Pratt and Whitney Engine zealot I am :-)."

In the fleet, we used to say "If the engine says Pratt & Whitney, the seat better say Martin Baker".
24 posted on 02/25/2015 11:15:26 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Don’t forget the super bug also replaced the A6 despite the fact that a rewinged A6 (A6F) would have been cheaper, have better range and payload, and still have an unmatched CEP in a N/AW environment.


25 posted on 02/25/2015 11:30:45 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Scouts Out!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The F-14 was a bit ahead of its time, but even more ahead of its engines, so the power and throttle response of the F110-GE-129s would have made for an amazing upgrade.

An even better plan would be to "navalize" the YF-23 the same way the YF-17 was "navalized" to become the F/A-18.

Guess we'll never know...

26 posted on 02/25/2015 11:32:43 AM PST by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Yes, good one!


27 posted on 02/25/2015 11:35:43 AM PST by ryan71 (Bibles, Beans and Bullets)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; Pukin Dog
"The regular Tomcat outclasses the Super Hornet any day of the week."

I dunno, wish Pukin Dog were still around to chime in.

28 posted on 02/25/2015 11:36:35 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Portcall24

my memory also about the Phantom


29 posted on 02/25/2015 11:48:48 AM PST by stylin19a (obama = Eddie Mush)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
F-15 would have kicked both their butts.

Imho of course.

Ok, so hate me...

5.56mm

30 posted on 02/25/2015 11:53:03 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So, how many F-14s did we give away to allied/neutral nations, and how many are mothballed at Davis-Monthan?


31 posted on 02/25/2015 11:54:29 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: GBA

The YF-23: This Is What Regret Looks Like To The US Air Force
32 posted on 02/25/2015 12:10:46 PM PST by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: ryan71
Yes, good one!

Hehe....Salma's got those magnificent twin...err...umm...Pratt & Whitney F100s.

33 posted on 02/25/2015 12:13:36 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I am biased. I worked flight deck control on the Connie. Watching Tomcats being shot off the cats with full burners are some of my most cherished memories. Lord I loved those planes.


34 posted on 02/25/2015 12:36:53 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Portcall24

My wife called the Phantom a great place to nap.

She did NDI (Non-Destructive Inspections) while in the Air Force.

She could crawl up in the intake and catch a few winks before signing off so it could fly or not.

She is a lot more mature now. :D


35 posted on 02/25/2015 12:49:55 PM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

And maybe....

F-18 - Penelope Cruz

Not a fighter but...

A-10 - Michelle Rodriguez


36 posted on 02/25/2015 12:53:08 PM PST by ryan71 (Bibles, Beans and Bullets)
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To: ryan71
A-10 - Michelle Rodriguez

Yup. She fits the profile. Very good looking lines, solid, agile and able to make it home after a tough tussle.

37 posted on 02/25/2015 1:00:38 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The F-16 would be in the shorts of the F-14 and the original F-18,Which was previously known as the YF-17.When it,The F-16 was placed in a completion with the F-18 the 16 got on its six in a hurry.


38 posted on 02/25/2015 2:32:19 PM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Assuming the pilots were equally matched, the Tomcat will clean to Hornets clock.
39 posted on 02/25/2015 2:45:19 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: sukhoi-30mki

i was in the navy during the late ‘70’s (carter years)...

i was on the FID with the F-4’s, and the Kennedy with the F-14’s ( i was a plane captain, worked the flight deck )..

the F-14’s were magnificent birds, with one problem..

after they landed and shut down, you needed at least 6 55 gallon drums, with the top cut off and on wheels, to catch the hydraulic fluid that would leak out of them..

then, before they took off ( after they had been started ) you would have to pump close to 200 gallons of fluid into them so they could fly...

basic design flaw, and it pretty much rendered the bird useless...


40 posted on 02/25/2015 3:30:35 PM PST by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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