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That was then, this is now: Walker suddenly a hard-liner on abortion as he vaults to front-runner
The London Daily Mail ^ | February 23, 2015 | David Martosko, US Political Editor

Posted on 02/23/2015 8:29:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

* In October the Wisconsin governor pledged to support legislation focused on 'safety' during abortions
* 'The bill leaves the final decision to a woman and her doctor,' he said in a campaign ad
* This month he's telling potential donors that he supports a 'personhood' amendment, which insists that life begins at conception
* He boasted in January that he had 'defunded Planned Parenthood,' America's wealthiest and most politically savvy chain of abortion clinics
* Walker is busy beefing up his conservative bona fides in advance of a brusiing GOP presidential primary that may not favor blue-state moderates

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is learning that major leagues pitchers throw harder than in the minors, as journalists are piling on the newly minted Republican front-runner – first with gotcha questions and now with questions about an abortion flip-flop over a period of just four months.

The New York Times highlighted on Monday a campaign ad Walker made in October as he fought through a tough re-election contest.

'I'm pro-life,' he says in the video, but Walker also announced his support for 'legislation to increase safety, and to provide more information to a woman considering her options. The bill leaves the final decision to a woman and her doctor.'(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; moralabsolutes; plannedparenthood; prochoice; prolife; scottwalker; walker; wisconsin
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To: SoConPubbie

Which of them has run their campaign based on the promise of overturning Roe vs Wade in their state?


81 posted on 02/24/2015 6:41:38 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30
I don’t know, you tell me.

Each of them is very pro-life and each of them have gotten Pro-Life bills passed in their states.

Like it or not, the country is not sufficiently united against abortion to nominate a Presidential candidate who is solidly against abortion.

Like it or not, you don't know what you are talking about.

The country was much less Pro-life as a whole when Reagan was elected or even GWB, both of which were completely pro-life.

You sound just like the GOP-E, and even Walker, when he said we need to downplay the Social Issues.

Just another excuse not to do the right thing, because it is too hard.

That's not leadership.
82 posted on 02/24/2015 6:44:09 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Jonty30
Which of them has run their campaign based on the promise of overturning Roe vs Wade in their state?

Roe vs. Wade is a federal issue, not a state issue.
83 posted on 02/24/2015 6:44:52 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

And Walker also passed bills in his legislature restricting abortion, but actions are worthless in your eyes.


84 posted on 02/24/2015 6:48:39 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: txhurl
More like ‘fumigate it free of RATS’ so ‘it’ can be occupied immediately by people sworn to the Constitution.

You can comfort yourself by saying that, but the facts support the 'slash and burn' policy I stated.

By way of circumstantial evidence, how many pro-Walker threads did the pro-Cruz poster who started this thread post in the last week?

How many 'let's tear-down Cruz' posts have pro-Walker posters done in this past week?

85 posted on 02/24/2015 6:52:32 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: SoConPubbie; 2ndDivisionVet; EternalVigilance; Jonty30; terycarl; Awgie; Colonel_Flagg; ...
RE:”Sorry SickOfLibs, this conversation is not about that law, but about his comments, that can only be construed as Pro-Abortion.”

My conversation HERE is about the law that quote was addressing : saving innocent babies lives.

He is the Braveheart invading liberal lands slaying liberals and saving innocent babies.

Every single person born in WI since he was elected should pay tribute to Walker for saving their LIVES. Just like Jews for decades visited Schindler's grave to pay tribute for saving them.

Walker hero photo walkerfinalposter.jpg

86 posted on 02/24/2015 7:39:43 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: EternalVigilance
RE:”Winning every fight, and the whole world, while losing your own soul, is eternally worthless. “

losing every fight is not leadership, its luring the (gullible) rats off a cliff.

87 posted on 02/24/2015 7:41:07 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: upsdriver
The meme here is to support Ted Cruz only. Everyone else needs to be destroyed, which is quite stupid, imo

I like Cruz....we need a Governor not a Senator as candidate....Governors do things, Senators vote on things that other people do.

88 posted on 02/24/2015 7:59:21 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall!)
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To: laplata
What are people going to do if Walker is the nominee?

The Demo's will rue the day they nominated Hillary and some pubbies will sit in their rooms...whine...and suck their thumbs..

89 posted on 02/24/2015 8:21:51 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall!)
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To: sickoflibs

Sorry, but the legislation in question is immoral and unconstitutional. The Utilitarian claim that it might save some never actually works out in the real world. In reality, it assures the continuation of abortion on demand, by surrendering the only real moral, constitutional and legal arguments against abortion.

You’re deluding yourself. So is Walker.


90 posted on 02/24/2015 8:22:05 PM PST by EternalVigilance (CAN-DO-USA.com)
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To: terycarl

The Demo’s will rue the day they nominated Hillary and some pubbies will sit in their rooms...whine...and suck their thumbs..


Perfect answer! Thanks.

Including some here.


91 posted on 02/24/2015 8:27:18 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: EternalVigilance
RE:”Sorry, but the legislation in question is immoral and unconstitutional.”

To close abortion clinics ?

92 posted on 02/24/2015 8:28:06 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

So they build mega-killing centers. Or dispense chemical weapons of mass destruction over the counter. Or whatever.

And still the babies, all of them, are allowed to be slaughtered, by permission of lawless “pro-life” laws, as long as they are slaughtered on schedule, and by some arbitrary set of rules.

The supreme law of the land is clear:

“No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law.”

“No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

So is the law of God:

“You shall not murder.”

Just do it, and stop weaseling on matters of life and death.


93 posted on 02/24/2015 8:35:57 PM PST by EternalVigilance (CAN-DO-USA.com)
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To: ifinnegan
Oh how the long knives come out after Walker

And these long knives are why conservative DO NOT WIN THE PRIMARY! Yes I'm shouting.

FR's posters are a microcasm of the hardline conservatives. The problems are these three things

1. One group of long knives wants to clear the field for the dream candidate by bashing the hell out of acceptable candidates. See 2012. Every candidate not names Palin was trashed mercilessly. They also all KNEW, contrary to everything heard, that Palin was going to run. She didn't run, and then they felt betrayed because she owed it to them to run because the long knive people were oh so important. They helped clear the field for Mitt Romney. Thanks guys. We know how that turned out.

2. Another group of long knives are 3rd party malcontents who have their own interests in Republicans losing.

3. Conservative camps have a bad habit of beating the hell out of each other because they aren't pure enough. Related to 1. This is a reason why they don't unite behind a candidate who can win - both the primary and general. The bashing doesn't unite anybody.

The only two types of candidates I will attack are scam artists running to make money, and strong liberals like Jeb Bush and Mike Huckabee. I won't attack Walker. I won't attack Cruz if he runs. I won't attack Rubio. I won't attack Rand Paul. I can live with those, even if they aren't my first choice.

94 posted on 02/24/2015 8:42:51 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Mike Pence in 2016)
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To: SoConPubbie
Reagan SIGNED a bill legalizing abortion. The real Reagan wasn't as conservative as the hype.

He was a good president, but he isn't God.

95 posted on 02/24/2015 8:44:31 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Mike Pence in 2016)
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To: EternalVigilance; stephenjohnbanker; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
RE:”Just do it, and stop weaseling on matters of life and death.”

I hate to have to inform you but we have no kings in this country, even the monarch Obama had to pass laws thru congress to outright ban things.

And believe me plenty of libs have trouble accepting this.

If we lived in the world you fantasize all private ownership of guns would be outlawed now nationally.

I have to live on the planet Earth. We have to.

96 posted on 02/24/2015 8:45:51 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sgtyork
Walker says less and accomplishes more to protect the unborn.

That one of the reasons he wins. Most voters, especially in the Midwest, have a distaste for bigmouths (on any side).

97 posted on 02/24/2015 8:50:02 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Mike Pence in 2016)
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To: sickoflibs

I don’t know what you’re talking about.

We live in a country in which the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, a supreme law that every officer of government, at every level, is required to swear to support and defend.

If legislation violates the Constitution I have no idea why there would be any further discussion about it among actual conservatives. The debate should be over.


98 posted on 02/24/2015 8:50:25 PM PST by EternalVigilance (CAN-DO-USA.com)
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To: sickoflibs

“The bill leaves the final decision to a woman and her doctor.”

— Governor Scott Walker


99 posted on 02/24/2015 8:53:10 PM PST by EternalVigilance (CAN-DO-USA.com)
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To: EternalVigilance
We're a free republic - a nation of laws, not of men - not a democracy.

We are a representative republic. We elect politicians to represent us in Congress and other places in government. If I change my mind on a particular issue, either due to new evidence, a new way of looking at things, or after seeing the result of a once-popular belief, I expect my representative to re-examine his thoughts on the same subject and possibly change his position.

The whole idea of our system is that politicians should reflect principle first, whether the people likes it or not.

I would far rather elect a representative who thinks like I do, than one stuck on principle. What happens when new problems emerge? I don't want a representative whose thoughts are firmly rooted in the 19th century

100 posted on 02/24/2015 8:55:36 PM PST by CurlyDave
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