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You are missing the weaknesses. Many are very disillusioned with the ACA. This means it will be easier to break up if Obama continues to weaken. And he will

You are missing the political reality. The GOP does not have a veto proof majority in Congress. And many RINOs will refuse to take the necessary actions whether it is amnesty or the ACA. Each day that goes by, the more deeply these programs are embedded in the law and practice. The debate will shift to fixing the ACA to make it work better and the GOP will come up with its own amnesty plan. The Dems will never allow the ACA to be replaced or undone. They will not abandon something that they have been trying to get for more than 50 years. And the ACA will eventually be converted to a single payer system similar to Medicare and Medicaid. It is the last remaining piece.

All the things in your list are the same. Unpopular and they need only a new President and keeping the Congress with GOP majorities. Things would switch very rapidly.

You seem to ignore our political system and how it works. You need a super majority in the Senate to pass anything except for certain exceptions. The GOP will need its own nuclear option to do anything. In the case of amnesty, you had 14 GOP senators side with the Dems and pass the Gang of 8 bill. We had a GOP majority in Congress during most of Bush 43's two terms. What did we get under Bush 43? An expansion of Medicare under the Prescription Drug Program, a doubling of the national debt from $5 trillion to $10 trillion; a push by the WH for amnesty; and no reform of the welfare programs, which are driving most of the national debt.

Well, so did Carter. But it got transformed back.

Did Carter pass anything like the ACA? Did he issue executive orders that provided amnesty to millions? Do you really think that Congress will take away the legalization of the 700,000 Dreamers that Obama ordered in 2012? Or the millions more who will receive SSNs and work permits under Obama's recent EO that was temporarily halted by a court order? How will Congress reverse the $8 trillion added to the national debt under the first 6 years of Obama? Or how will Congress reverse gay marriage or gays in the military? Dream on. The GOP leadership is part of the problem, not the solution.

117 posted on 02/21/2015 9:04:50 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
Did Carter pass anything like the ACA? Did he issue executive orders that provided amnesty to millions?

The ACA is not the only damaging thing that has been done to our country. Under Carter Iran was toying with the US by kidnapping a large number of Americans (Carter did tremendous damage by not backing the Shah and allowing the mullahs to take power) and gas prices were skyrocketing. Russia invaded Afganistan. South American countries near our border were going communist. Mortgage interest was 18% or higher. Hopelessness was palpable. Russian had more missiles than we did. Enemies were at our gates and there was no leadership.

Than a change in leadership and almost overnight Americans gained confidence. It remains a truism that a leader can either lead toward destruction or hope. People had real hope for most of the Bush years. Revisionist history says we were miserable for most of Bush's presidency. Lies. He had 55 months od straight growth despite 9/11 and 2 tough wars. We haven't had even ONE day of hope under Obama.

You don't necessarily need a nuclear option under a GOP Pres to get legislation signed. Remember, there are a few Dems who agree with some current GOP legislation. We got sixty three votes on Keystone and if the country votes in a GOP President there would be more dems under pressure to vote for right leaning legislation especially if Obama continues to screw things up now which he will.

The Dems will never allow the ACA to be replaced or undone

Already there are 30 Dems who voted for the ACA who got voted out. If this continues it doesn't matter what the Dems "will" or "will not" allow. If we get piece by piece legislation that will reform health care and a GOP President then who cares what the radical Dems think?

Problem is...you're not looking to the future or what can happen. There could very well be another sweep in '16 as more and more people get disillusioned by the ACA, ISIS, Obama socialist policy, etc. It happened last year even though there were plenty on the right who never said it would. It could very very well happen again.

119 posted on 02/21/2015 7:40:40 PM PST by what's up
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