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Lasers set to zap engines into running more efficiently
new scientist ^ | 20 February 2015 | by Hal Hodson

Posted on 02/20/2015 6:59:17 AM PST by ckilmer

PEW pew! For a week last November an internal combustion engine hummed away in a lab near Chicago. Why the excitement? This particular engine sets fire to fuel with lasers instead of spark plugs, burning fuel more efficiently than normal. Laser-fired engines could lead to cleaner, greener cars.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: auto; car; energy; laser; sparkplug
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To: 11th Commandment

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There are technologies that need to be proved before laser spark plugs can realistically be adopted, Woodruff said. “First, the diode laser pump must demonstrate that it can operate continuously for 10,000 hours,” he said. “Second, will the pressure barrier window/lens stay clean for 10,000 hours? The window is self-cleaning to some extent, in that each laser pulse cleans the window. If it holds up over the duration, it will then be competitive with electric spark for natural gas-fueled engines.”


41 posted on 02/20/2015 7:46:26 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Pontiac
If I were designing this thing, the solid state LASER would be isolated from the cylinder by a quartz or sapphire (or similar) window. If the article identified the LASER wavelength, I could suggest reasonable window materials.
42 posted on 02/20/2015 7:47:58 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Arthur McGowan

LOL!!


43 posted on 02/20/2015 7:49:24 AM PST by moehoward
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To: IronJack

Rotary engine’s biggest problem has always been reliability. That’s just an engineering problem at this point since we know the concept is sound.
Regarding using petrol vapor instead of atomized injected fuel it’s very true that combustion would be much more efficient- due to higher compression and less waste of fuel. However, I think the reason this hasn’t been done in a realistic production engine is that gasoline doubles as a cooling agent for the combustion chamber which helps control ignition timing and prevents the cylinder head from melting which could happen otherwise.


44 posted on 02/20/2015 7:49:56 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Arthur McGowan

Optical fiber is pretty delicate stuff at least the communications stuff is. I can’t imagine using it in a combustion chamber with the shocking changes in temperature and pressure that happen there thousands of times per minute.


45 posted on 02/20/2015 7:51:17 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

As you know, that’s called a carburetor, and it was replaced by electronically controlled fuel injection for a host of very good reasons.


46 posted on 02/20/2015 7:51:25 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: ckilmer

SHAZAM!!!!!!!!
Another (probably) great idea for cleaner, greener automobiles that did not come from Washington D. C.
The Spark Plug has been around for well over a hundred years. Damn thing(s)are almost like alligators in their ability to survive change. Generators, gone. Ignition Points, gone. Carbide lights, gone. The spark plug is next to be gone. Well maybe.
I would like to see laser Plugs in operation on a race track. F1 or maybe MotoGP, since these are two series that experimentation is encouraged. If we see more power and longer engine life, I suspect that within 10 years, we will see laser plugs in production automobiles and motorcycles.


47 posted on 02/20/2015 7:51:48 AM PST by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan by the day)
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To: Lake Living

The fuel component for ships has changed as of January 1, 2015.

No more N6, (with certain exceptions) no more IFO 320/280 fuel...


48 posted on 02/20/2015 7:52:01 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: IronJack
Wouldn't a proper air/gas mixture of vapor be much more explosive and avoid the loss of energy required for the state change from liquid to gas?

I do not think so. The power of the internal combustion engine lies in the expansion inside the chamber. Injecting in the liquid phase adds to the expansion in the ignition. Inside the combustion chamber there is not a problem of too little heat for expansion; heat removal is part of the limits of efficiency.

49 posted on 02/20/2015 7:52:14 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: ckilmer

“. “There is a lot of pressure on the shipping companies to reduce the pollution from their ships,” says Ghosh. “One shipping company we are talking to is interested in retrofitting their existing engines with laser ignition.””

I thought the shipping companies would be running diesels?


50 posted on 02/20/2015 7:52:37 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: nascarnation

Heck, yeah. Pump that Hellcat up to 800 h.p.
That will make my commute so much faster!


51 posted on 02/20/2015 7:52:39 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Pontiac
Cargo ships employ diesel engines. How would you retrofit a diesel engine with laser ignition?

Your point makes this sound like a false claim.

52 posted on 02/20/2015 7:53:16 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: ckilmer

IIRC, one of the raps against the gas piston engine was that, in order to get the peak explosion to occur when the piston was at the top, some of the explosion had to occur on the way up, sapping power. Could a laser, causing multiple explosions at (nearly) the same time, address this problem as well?


53 posted on 02/20/2015 7:53:49 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: smokingfrog

$2 gas baby! Gotta love it.


54 posted on 02/20/2015 7:54:06 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: mbarker12474

Why is it unclear? Byproducts of inefficient combustion make up a large portion of the pollutants emitted from internal combustion engines. More complete combustion results in lower emissions, not higher.

If your car uses 20 gallons of fuel a week, it is both more efficient and cleaner than if it requires 25 gallons for the same amount of driving. And combustion efficiency aside, 5 gallons of gas NOT being burned is cleaner than 5 gallons of gas being burned.


55 posted on 02/20/2015 7:54:43 AM PST by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: mbarker12474

“How does burning fuel more efficiently lead to anything greener or cleaner? Doesn’t this simply change the proportion of different waste products?”

You get fewer ‘dirty’ pollutants.


56 posted on 02/20/2015 7:55:09 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: nascarnation

$2 gas.

It keeps inching up. I wonder how long it’s going to last?


57 posted on 02/20/2015 7:55:26 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Zathras

Of course, more efficient combustion of fuel leads to less carbon buildup.


58 posted on 02/20/2015 7:56:56 AM PST by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

LOL.


59 posted on 02/20/2015 7:57:20 AM PST by RetiredNavy ("Only accurate firearms are interesting")
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To: NorthMountain
the solid state LASER would be isolated from the cylinder by a quartz or sapphire (or similar) window.

Now that you mention it I recall an article I read years ago about the engine development lab at Ford using a quartz or sapphire window in an experimental engine so that they could film the combustion wave while the engine was running.

Of course the same question arises how long the crystal window will last. With an experimental engine the cost of replacing the window is unimportant. The cost of replacing one in your daily driver is a different matter.

60 posted on 02/20/2015 7:58:52 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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