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Tesla Model S Battery Life: How Much Range Loss For Electric Car Over Time?
Green Car Reports ^ | February 17, 2015 | David Noland

Posted on 02/17/2015 7:36:42 AM PST by LogicDesigner

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Based on 84 data points from the 85-kWh version of the Model S and six from 60-kWh cars, the study concludes that the Model S will retain about 94 percent of its capacity after 50,000 miles, with losses thereafter shrinking to about 1 percent per 30,000 miles.

That means that after 100,000 miles, the typical Model S is projected to retain about 92 percent of its battery capacity and range.

(Excerpt) Read more at greencarreports.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automakers; electriccar; electriccars; evs; tesla
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To: LogicDesigner

If it takes 40 minutes for an 80% charge, imagine you are on vacation and pull up to a charging station .... how long would you wait in line for the other Tesla drivers to finish their charge?


21 posted on 02/17/2015 7:57:48 AM PST by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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To: LogicDesigner

And if you’re the 5th Tesla in line at a 4-charger station?

Right now that might not be a problem, but as more Teslas appear, particularly after the cheaper model 3 appears, it will surely happen.


22 posted on 02/17/2015 7:58:32 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: LogicDesigner

I’m guessing your employer is the democrat party or one of their green energy lackeys. Nothing but one more tax leech.


23 posted on 02/17/2015 7:59:44 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: LogicDesigner

I seriously doubt the accuracy of the report. Any report from an organization with “green” in the name is probably fraudulent in some major aspect.


24 posted on 02/17/2015 8:00:34 AM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: The Great RJ

I think it depends on where you are.
I hear Teslas are as numerous as illegals in Cali.
But here in the midwest I see maybe one a week.

Funny story: my buddy’s daughter has a Tesla, and she works at a place that has a plug-in station. But another guy bought a Volt so they arm wrestle over that slot.


25 posted on 02/17/2015 8:00:58 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love it when these college boys start whipping out their batteries to see who has the longest......

Charge


26 posted on 02/17/2015 8:01:31 AM PST by Autonomous User (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: nascarnation

Quality costs more. Did you expect a transformative, German engineered, world-class touring/sports car to be the same price as a Chevy Spark?


27 posted on 02/17/2015 8:03:05 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: The Great RJ

There developing a new Tesla model that runs on skittles and unicorn farts.


28 posted on 02/17/2015 8:04:52 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Fresh Wind

“Only if you’re first in line, and only if you have enough juice to get to the SuperCharger.”

And only if you paid for the option of supercharging. It’s not on the base models.


29 posted on 02/17/2015 8:05:32 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: sickoflibs
“How is the cabin heated? In gasoline engines heat is a by product. My heating bill is big and I just got a new furnace recently, its been cold here.”

There is a built in heater and it does indeed take some juice to run it. Many EV drivers use a smartphone app to remotely start their car 5 or 10 minutes before they get in so that the car is pre-heated (or pre-air-conditioned in the summer) by the time they get in. This works especially well in the mornings since your car would still be plugged in and won't lose charge as a result.

It seems that in worst case situations, while driving in sub-freezing weather with the heater blasting, you can get up to 40% less than the EPA rated range. However, with a 200+ mile car like the Model S, the vast majority of people would still have double what they need in order to do their day-to-day driving.

30 posted on 02/17/2015 8:06:22 AM PST by LogicDesigner
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To: central_va
The Messiah and St Elon debating who gets to be pitcher and who gets to be catcher.


31 posted on 02/17/2015 8:07:39 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: nascarnation

“I hear Teslas are as numerous as illegals in Cali.”

That’s actually pretty much true. I live about twenty miles east of the Tesla plant. I could go into downtown right now and see from two to six of them on the streets (school is just starting and the soccer moms are dropping Jr off). Here where the climate is always moderate and daily driving distances are well within the Tesla’s range, they are a good choice. The high-performance model with 0-60 times of around 3-4 seconds are impressive!


32 posted on 02/17/2015 8:07:45 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Fresh Wind
“And if you’re the 5th Tesla in line at a 4-charger station? Right now that might not be a problem, but as more Teslas appear, particularly after the cheaper model 3 appears, it will surely happen.”

But as more Teslas appear, more charging stations will be installed.

33 posted on 02/17/2015 8:08:43 AM PST by LogicDesigner
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To: nascarnation

At least BMW is being honest about the price.

I’ve seen Tesla fanboys recite the specs on a $105,000+ model and claim it cost the $75,000 base price.


34 posted on 02/17/2015 8:10:24 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: central_va
The unicorn fart powered Tesla is what Obama discussed with Musk this weekend.

Here’s where President Obama dined with Elon Musk and Marc Benioff this weekend
35 posted on 02/17/2015 8:13:46 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: LogicDesigner
“With temperatures expected to top out in the -teens next week. I’ll stick with a car that actually starts in that kind of weather and actually produces heat.”

Electric cars don't have a problem with starting in cold weather. You are thinking of ICE cars.


They may start in the cold, but how much battery juice is used to keep the driver and passengers warm when it's zero outside?

36 posted on 02/17/2015 8:14:37 AM PST by az_gila
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To: cripplecreek

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37 posted on 02/17/2015 8:17:17 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: az_gila

That problem is mitigated to an extent by programmed warming or cooling of the interior while still plugged in, just go out to a pre-warmed or cooled vehicle in the morning. In temperature extremes it’s still a drag on range, though. It’s an issue that will continue to be a problem until range is extended considerably to the point that this drag becomes the minor concern that it is with internal combustion engines. Climate control reduced gas mileage too, just not nearly to the extent that it does with electric drivetrains.


38 posted on 02/17/2015 8:17:58 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: LogicDesigner
RE :”There is a built in heater and it does indeed take some juice to run it. Many EV drivers use a smartphone app to remotely start their car 5 or 10 minutes before they get in so that the car is pre-heated (or pre-air-conditioned in the summer) by the time they get in. This works especially well in the mornings since your car would still be plugged in and won't lose charge as a result.”

Except when they drive home after parking in a normal parking lot with no electric.

So at about 6pm it will be 22 F and dark here today ,and its the warm day of the week here Thursdays and Friday's high will be ~ 16F,

Even worse maybe in the summer sitting at those traffic lights or traffic at ~ 100F with that sun beating on the car and into the coach thru the windows.

39 posted on 02/17/2015 8:20:28 AM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: LogicDesigner

The 69kwhr model has theb85kwhr battery with software limits.


40 posted on 02/17/2015 8:24:27 AM PST by TexasGator
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