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Vladimir Putin's war chiefs 'could go nuclear' defence bosses have warned
UK Mirror ^ | 2-6-2015 | Jason Beattie

Posted on 02/06/2015 12:22:08 PM PST by tcrlaf

Defence Secretary Michael Fallon has warned that Russia was increasingly trigger happy about using its nuclear weapons.

Mr Fallon spoke out as Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande arrived in Moscow for crunch talks on the crisis in Ukraine.

The Defence Secretary said Britain must update its nuclear arsenal in response to Russia’s war-mongering.

******** Speaking at the Munich Security Conference, he said the Kremlin’s military planners may have “lowered the threshold” for the use of nuclear weapons. ********

His comments came as David Cameron was slammed for failing to be at the table for the talks between the German Chancellor, French President and Vladimir Putin.

(Excerpt) Read more at mirror.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: nuclear; nuclearweapons; putin; russia; ukraine; ukrainecrisis
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To: McGruff
The group here motivates me to continue to build a coalition

Which is another blatant lie from you Russian propagandists as you support the current European war that Russia is fighting and do your best to stop efforts to prevent Russia becoming a greater threat to peace.

ALL of my posts are about preventing future wars caused by Russia, you are literally fighting in support of Russia's war against Ukraine.

21 posted on 02/06/2015 12:53:57 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: McGruff; spetznaz; DesertRhino

The lessons of History are free to anyone who wants to learn them.

So, let’s review -

In the 1930’s, there was this ruthless bloke named Hitler, using the same tactics as Putin - repressing his people, eliminating opposition politicians and reporters, and hungry for land.

Then, like now, there were a lot who said just let him have that piece of land and he’ll go away satisfied, a lot who said “it’s Europe’s problem, not ours” .... OK, you get the idea.

And how did ignoring / appeasing Hitler work out for all of us? Hmmm??

It always amazes me, how many people WANT to flunk History.


22 posted on 02/06/2015 12:57:56 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: ansel12

For the umpteenth time...

The wouldn’t even BE a war, and Crimea would still belong to Ukraine, if it wasn’t for the Soros sponsored coup d’état. Both Obama AND Nuland actually admitted they were directly involved in the “Regime Change” this weekend.


23 posted on 02/06/2015 12:59:27 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: DesertRhino
That is not a Russian invasion up to NATOs border.

Of course it is, that is where conquering Ukraine will put them.

You support Russia's invasion and goals, I support America and the West, and want to prevent Russia from again becoming a threat to the world.

I do not want to undo and start the process of reversing what we fought so hard to win under Reagan, and presidents before him.

I remember the bad days, and do not want to bring them back.

24 posted on 02/06/2015 12:59:36 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: tcrlaf

Why wouldn’t they? They know Obama wouldn’t do squat if they dropped a couple nukes on their neighbors.

Oh, maybe he would give some half-hearted speech, but then he’d go back to golfing or hanging out with Jay-Z.


25 posted on 02/06/2015 12:59:49 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: DesertRhino

“Or at least to do exactly what the Russians predicted all along. Surround every inch of them right up to their borders. And then always keep them in jeopardy.”

Gee, I wonder why anyone would want to do that?


26 posted on 02/06/2015 1:00:54 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: DesertRhino
A mob in the street

Like those upstart American colonists who ungratefully threw out the rightfully-governing British? Is that what you meant to say?


27 posted on 02/06/2015 1:01:00 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: ansel12

Why would it be suicide?

Do you really think that “Mutually Assured Destruction” is one of Obama’s policies?


28 posted on 02/06/2015 1:01:33 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Hey...he wants to destroy America. If anyone survives it...doesn’t matter to him.


29 posted on 02/06/2015 1:03:30 PM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Boogieman

Yes, I believe that it would be suicide for Russia to launch nuclear war against NATO.

Do you seriously think that is considered by Putin?

Really?


30 posted on 02/06/2015 1:05:13 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: ansel12

“You support Russia’s invasion and goals,”

STOP TROLLING with strawmen. You have no fricken idea what goals he supports.

And stop with the wrapping-in-the-flag BS. Being AGAINST the Obamunists is being PRO-AMERICAN,IMHO.

This is ALL about Syria, and Obama being embarrassed on the world stage by Putin. (And it gives the Soros Group cronies, like Hunter Biden, a chance to make a SH***load of money)


31 posted on 02/06/2015 1:06:00 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: ansel12

they almost used nukes in Afghanistan.

They will not go in a blaze, they might nuke things in Syria to help Assad.


32 posted on 02/06/2015 1:06:04 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: tcrlaf

There was no coup.

Citizens have every right to throw out corrupt leaders.

Yanukovich was a corrupt, traitorous Russian toady.

Deal with the facts, please.


33 posted on 02/06/2015 1:06:25 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: ansel12

“Do you seriously think that is considered by Putin?”

I think it’s far more likely that it’s just bluster, but yeah, I don’t think we would do anything about it if he did drop a nuke on them.


34 posted on 02/06/2015 1:06:43 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: tcrlaf

There is a war, and you are supporting it, because you support Russia.

And you DO NOT want the civilized world to do anything to hinder Russia’s military goals.


35 posted on 02/06/2015 1:06:55 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: Boogieman

Presidents come and go, for instance Obama will be gone in 23 months, but it is naive to think that the entire American government and military and NATO would stand in place and salute as America was bombed out of existence.


36 posted on 02/06/2015 1:09:45 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: canuck_conservative

“Deal with the facts, please.”

I am...
Coups have consequences. We are dealing with them now.

Are you saying that Obama and Nuland LIED this weekend, when they admitted involvement?


37 posted on 02/06/2015 1:11:26 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: ansel12

I didn’t say anything about bombing America, I said if he bombed his neighbors, such as Ukraine. We aren’t going to war over that with Obama in the WH, no way in hell.


38 posted on 02/06/2015 1:11:49 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: tcrlaf

Boy it’s a good thing Obama wants to unilaterally disarm our nuclear deterrent. (s)


39 posted on 02/06/2015 1:13:35 PM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: tcrlaf

No coup, just a fed-up citizenry. Like 1776.

Too much for you to understand, right?


40 posted on 02/06/2015 1:15:10 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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