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To: rdcbn
Ok, if you flood the USA with workers how are people going to work into their 70's? If you get the lazy and stupid off of social security disability(a scam) it would save the program.

We need to stop ALL immigration and assimilate the ones we have now. There is no labor shortage, it is simply a question of supply and demand. If wages go up people will get off their asses and work. But that can't happen in the human flood you propose. Your scheme does the opposite. It is like the medieval practice of bleeding, does nothing but kill the patient.

69 posted on 02/04/2015 4:35:02 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Ok, if you flood the USA with workers how are people going to work into their 70’s?

If we increase the number of young, productive workers in the country, there will be enough workers in the workforce to fill the demographic hole and support retirees at the current l retirement age of 65, especially if we bring in highly skilled, high wage earning immigrants.

“If you get the lazy and stupid off of social security disability(a scam) it would save the program. “

It would help, that goes without saying. But it does not save enough to address demographic tsunami about to hit this country. The numbers of Boomers leaving the economy to start recovering Social Security is just too huge.

“We need to stop ALL immigration and assimilate the ones we have now.”

True, we need to shut off the flow of illiterate, unskilled no english speaking third worlders who are not assimilating. However, bringing in high skill workers , many of whom have been educated in the United States to begin with, from places like the EU, Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Korea, China, India and South America requires very little in the way of assimilation.

“There is no labor shortage, it is simply a question of supply and demand.”

The United States currently has a shortage of high tech, high skilled workers and the coming retirement of skilled boomers will reduce the supply by a huge margin. I don't dispute that there a lots of people out of work, but there is a definite shortage of high skilled, highly educated workers, especially in the High Tech world. Fact is, that kind of talent has always been in short supply regardless of economic conditions.

“If wages go up people will get off their asses and work. But that can't happen in the human flood you propose. Your scheme does the opposite. It is like the medieval practice of bleeding, does nothing but kill the patient.”

We will soon have labor shortages unless the economy contracts correspondingly.

I disagree with your thesis that bringing in very high skilled, highly educated, highly motivated and entrepreneurial foreigners destroys wages. The Silicone Valley miracle was built in large part by the contribution of foreign expats from Asia, India and from all over the rest of the world. They created massive wealth and good paying jobs for a whole generation of Americans that drive our economy for a whole generation

And that's a fact.

86 posted on 02/04/2015 5:16:57 PM PST by rdcbn
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