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To: magglepuss
Do you really think the gope is fighting the left? I used to think they were too stupid/nice, etc. to take them on. You know the drill, it’s not our message it’s the press, bla, bla, bla. Excuse after excuse. What I have witnessed over the last few years has me coming to the realization that they are working with the left. I think the gope purpose now is to keep tamped down the grass roots movements like the tea party. Heck, just look at what happened less than a month ago. The Republican speaker is punishing Representatives for voting in a manner that represents their district!!!!!! How can one explain this?

Not many of the GOPe are actively fighting the Left. Many, while not necessarily rabidly committing the same treason, are at least complicit in that they do not fight.

The real question is, do we keep allowing an Obama or clone of him, in to accelerate our demise via all the EOs and ignoring of the laws and constitution, or, do we try to stem the tide a bit as we try to claw back an inch at a time until we can replace some of the worst with something not quite as bad?

One way is putting your finger in the duke to avert disaster as long as possible, in the hopes of effecting some serious repairs. The other way is to simply insert a stick of dynamite to blow the dike. Many seem to think that is the way to go as the People will then take matters into their own hands and wrest Freedom back - I don't call this a good strategy but a last ditch and iffy peg to hang one's hat on.

I will spend money and time and effort to try to help the most conservative candidates onto the slates. Once the slate has been defined, I will vote for the most conservative (or even least rabidly liberal) player left. Getting more conservatives to replace the Libs and RINOs in the House and Senate would be one of the main goals. keeping the rabid liberal out of the WH is an imperative and the only place I would fully compromise my "principles" by voting for the lesser evil, because until we get a conservative House/Senate, there is no apparent brakes to be applied to one who would utterly destroy us - Obama has demonstrated what the Left can and will get away with with a rogue America-hating criminal in the "bully pulpit".

If we refuse to vote for someone because we disagree with some of their opinions, ignoring whether they would follow the Constitution vs. forcing their opinions on us by breaking all the laws, we aid and abet the hard Left every bit as much as those who voted for Obama twice - we can say they deserve what they got, but if we did nothing to resist, we also deserve what we all got and cannot blame it on other factors because the choice was ours and we made it ourselves.

There is no quick fix - we need to be as relentless as the Left and take every inch we can get, anywhere we can get it. Else, the demise can be a relatively quick event and I doubt there will be a robust and effective reprisal by the People because even "conservatives" have been beaten down to the point where many consider un-constitutional laws to be fine with them if they fit their particular opinions and mind-sets:: if you doubt it, try thinking about it when you read some of the posts that show up here when the topic arises. Other than some raucous voices, the will of the People is being drained to the point where it is more likely that the bitching increases while the actions stay stagnant.

151 posted on 02/08/2015 4:43:36 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

Honestly, I am so sick of the same song, different verse.

“If you don’t vote for this worthless R candidate, then your voting for the D”

Pointing out someones legitimate flaws is “a circular firing squad”

If you should mention that someone doesn’t even come close to representing your values. “purity test” or even worse “Jesus isn’t running”

Oh yeah, “stomp your foot and take your ball and go home”

All of the above mean nothing anymore. We’ve heard them too many times, and somehow the tea party keeps getting stabbed in the back.

It’s Cruz or Palin for me. I know I am not alone in that view. Do with that info what you want. Don’t come complaining after the fact when the gope steals this thing again that it is our fault. If you want Walker, fine. But many, many, many have told you no, they will not support him.

The ball is in your court.


152 posted on 02/08/2015 7:44:22 AM PST by magglepuss (Don't tread on)
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