Posted on 01/28/2015 7:40:25 AM PST by rktman
Yes, but she didn’t murder her spouses so she gets a bit of a break! I’m afraid the Tudor and Lancastrians were far more murderous than the house of York.
It would have been Moochie if not for the presence of a certain enemy islamist cockroach.
The Tudors were ruthless mainly since the House of York was always a threat on their mind. Frankly, the Tudors were viewed as upstarts, but with Henry, the bloodbaths didn’t begin until he went crazy over Anne Boleyn and wanted to eliminate Catholicism and establish himself as Pope of the English Church. Then there were the uprisings reacting against both Anne Boleyn and his new religious policies that had to be put down, along with his butchery of the nobility, mainly the descendants of the House of York.
In my view the Tudors were the main reason that there are religious problems and of course, a disgraceful version of monarchy in Britain today.
Yes it would, but in the case of sex offenders, not just an accusation, but a real set of cast iron evidence. Too many innocents can be convicted of anything these days based on hearsay.
Oh, the Tudors were total upstarts - illegitimate as well as pushy. Henry VII murdered all the relatives of Edward IV and Richard III - including nephews of Richard that he had protected during his short reign. Henry 8 also butchered an elderly York noble. She refused to go to the block and they had to chase her around with the ax. I forget her name.
Look at the photograph again and you’ll see the edge of the wheels while the plane is certainly above 10,000 feet.
Lady Margaret Pole who was a friend of Katherine of Aragon and nurse/nanny to Mary Tudor (Bloody Mary). The biggest mistake that the Spanish monarchs made was when they allowed their daughter Katherine to marry Arthur Tudor, who died, but Katherine was forced to remain in England, in poverty, for seven years until Henry VIII married her. Then after twenty years of marriage Henry went crazy for Anne Boleyn and abused his wife by saying they had never been truly married (making Katherine into an unwitting concubine) and bastardizing his daughter Mary who had been brought up to be regarded as her father’s legitimate heir.
The Tudors were the biggest mistake England ever made and Elizabeth I entrapped her cousin Mary Queen of Scots into signing on a treasonous plot, resulting in what was called a judicial murder, a planned execution with the judicial process only a mere polite formality. Such an event set the precedent for what happened with Charles I and Marie Antoinette, their show trials and then execution. I do believe that the Tudors were likely the bloodiest dynasty ever to exist on English soil and I do believe that I’m surprised that Henry VIII ever managed to keep his throne.
I don't know why Isabella and Ferdinand let their daughter into the clutches of the Tudors. She was a good woman who loved Henry VIII and he treated her brutally. Let's just be content that he's roasting in hell.
Henry VII stabilized everything; he left a full treasury, a stable country, a domesticated nobility. He kept the nation intact after fighting fierce battles and as far as I’m concerned, did a great job. Minus murdering the Yorkist descendants. As for Ferdinand and Isabella, they failed to protect their daughter’s interests when Katherine was living in poverty and yes, I do think Henry VIII is roasting in Hell.
I wonder if showing you have the ability to order people killed is the first test of any new ruler. Each US President orders military strikes sometimes within the first months of becoming President and now in the Middle East, ordering an execution is routine. Now this King continues to carry out pre-planned executions of criminals instead of shrieking about being a humanitarian.
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The king is in the counting house…which is basically what Henry 7 did…forcing money out of poor peasants so badly that they finally revolted and hung one of his tax collectors in the city of York. Butchering Perkin Warbeck, Clarence’s poor kids and Richard the Third’s son. Nice work if you can get it!
Not my favorite king. Had French mercenaries protect him at Bosworth while he hid behind a tree. Yuck!
Princess Barry probably wishes he could do some beheadings just like his Saudi king does.
I didn’t know he had hidden behind a tree. Wimp.
The entire Tudor dynasty was a huge mistake, a very huge mistake. I do dislike how he kept a Spanish Princess of the Blood a prisoner in poverty for seven years, essentially holding her hostage. For some reason I can’t forget that.
I do think the Tudors, almost all of them, are roasting together in Hell. Elizabeth I was certainly ruthless and Mary Tudor burned 300 people alive, for the sake of eliminating heresy and her mistake of marrying a Spanish prince.
Yes, Henry 7 would never have been king if the noble, treacherous family of Stanley hadn’t intervened to save his onions at Bosworth. Richard would have made a very good king. He was already on his way. The Tudors were indeed a murderous bunch - although most of the various royal families were kind of nasty. But at least the Plantagenet family had good looks and charm!
AS far as I could tell, the Tudors kept trying to make themselves ‘more’ than just a king/Queen, but tried to make themselves popes and eventually Gods. The Plantagenet were on good terms with the other royal families of Europe and were questionably accepted by the other dynasties. They were the closest descendents of William the Conqueror and it’s telling that after Henry VIII treated his first wife horrifically, the more prominent dynasties didn’t have much to do with them in regards to marriage.
It’s very true that European royalty was very wary of the Tudors. I believe Ferdinand and Isabella were leery of sending Catherine over originally. Thank God, as bad as he treated her, Henry VIII didn’t murder her.
Of course, Henry VIII had Plantagenent blood in him - his grandfather was Edward IV and he looked quite like him. But in all other respects, he differed from that rascally but laid-back Clintonesque king, lol!
Henry VIII couldn’t murder her, even on trumped up charges, even with evidence. The Holy Roman Emperor would have massed a HUGE army and obliterated the entire dynasty, except Mary, who was related to the Emperor Charles via Katherine. Instead Henry hounded her nonstop into penury. As for Edward IV, he produced sons and didn’t get crazy enough to create an English church with the monarch as pope of the church. The Tudors were the worst though and I do believe a lot of princesses in Europe refused point-blank to marry Henry VIII after the death of Jane Seymour.
Truth be told, I have problems feeling sorry for drug traffickers and sex offenders.
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