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The Illegal Bergdahl Deal: Sordid Details, Troubling Implications
Townhall.com ^ | January 27, 2015 | Guy Benson

Posted on 01/28/2015 5:02:03 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Iron Munro

That is it and then he can become a spokesperson to America for Islam preaching peace and acceptance (taqiya?)


21 posted on 01/28/2015 5:53:31 AM PST by winodog (hang on tight to Gods salvation)
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To: Kaslin

Charges must be forthcoming since the administration is so strongly denying it. Putting the pending charges aside, my anger remains focused on a Congress that allowed and continues to allow a rouge President to make unilateral decisions, thereby making themselves (and the will of the country) irrelevant.


22 posted on 01/28/2015 5:57:26 AM PST by Boomer One ( ToUse)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Ozero set the tone 6 months ago. Some 2 star looking for another or becoming the attaché to our mission in Iraq will do his bidding.


23 posted on 01/28/2015 6:13:32 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Kaslin

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but desertion in the face of the enemy is a capital crime per UCMJ, is it not?

Six American soldiers died trying to locate this POS. Maximum penalty.


24 posted on 01/28/2015 6:27:27 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: Kaslin
Obviously Barak Hussein Obama is annoyed the Army came up with desertion charges against Bergdahl after inviting his parents (at the time of his release) to the WH so he could do a victory lap in front of the adoring liberal media. The Army, although I'm not confident they will, need to strip Bergdahl of his rank, send him to Leavenworth for 3-5 years, and upon release slap him with a Dishonorable Discharge.
25 posted on 01/28/2015 6:31:43 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Then he will go back to jihad.


26 posted on 01/28/2015 6:56:07 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Not deniable = Not falsifiable = Not science.)
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To: Kaslin

and no mention of the $5 BILLION we paid the taliban... which will buy weapons to kill American soldiers

(if you’re wondering... yes, giving $5 BILLION to the enemy during war is an act of treason)


27 posted on 01/28/2015 7:17:57 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: alloysteel

The one problem in your scenario....it notes he has to be captured. In Bergdahl’s case....he walked away and gave himself to the enemy.

I think the closer you get to a court episode....the more pressure on this guy. He’s too unbalanced to handle the pressure.


28 posted on 01/28/2015 7:46:05 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: PghBaldy

You have to admit on the entry paperwork that there was an episode, and cite the discharge. If there’s questions....the Army has to write a waiver. I suspect....there’s a waiver there, but the Army not grasp that he showed psychological signs of some type during the coast guard episode. Not to suggest such, but there might be a hundred Bergdahls in the Army today.


29 posted on 01/28/2015 7:48:19 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Can Obama give Bergdahl a pardon now, or does he have to wait until charges are brought? Obama doesn’t want a court martial to take place, but what can he do to prevent one, other than putting pressure on people in the Army who are involved in handling the case?


30 posted on 01/28/2015 6:56:34 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

A pardon can only be issued after the court has rendered a verdict of guilty. If the court deemed an innocent verdict...the pardon is not necessary. Frankly though...if you read the general text of a desertion deal and measure up Bergdahl....unless he says he was crazy and unable to comprehend what he was doing...that’s the only way to avoid a guilty verdict. His entire case will revolve around him proving himself nuts....as sad as it sounds. Will a couple of military officers sit there for a three-week trial and accept that? It’s hard to say. I would also say this...I doubt that the case would occur in 2015, and likely to be a spring 2016 episode....in the middle of an election period. If I were the Democrats...I’d be pretty hostile that the President’s whole game came in the middle of an election year.


32 posted on 01/29/2015 12:56:25 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Ford granted Nixon a pardon before waiting for Nixon to be charged with any crime. The Constitution gives the President the power to grant reprieves and pardons—it doesn’t say anything about the person having to be found guilty first. There may be rules within the military justice system about this but we know Obama’s attitude towards keeping the law.


33 posted on 01/29/2015 6:32:34 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Under the military system, if found innocent of a charge via military court....you walk free. Zero need for a pardon. In a case where you’ve been offered an Article 15 and it’s a ‘light’ (I use this word sparingly) crime....then you get a punishment (usually stripes lost, some fine, some stockade time). In this case, afterwards, I could see a pardon coming up. But desertion isn’t fitting into a Article 15 type situation.

I should note....the Army has yet to say what crime will be pursued. Perhaps they’d like to overlook the desertion charge, and simply try him on AWOL or losing his weapon (leaving his weapon would be accurate, but maybe they just need a fake charge to get him out of the situation quickly). I believe if you ask an hundred Army personnel...describing the case...they’d all describe it as desertion.

Looking back over this...the idiot should have smoked some marijuana and just said he was a doper...Army would have moved reasonably quick to put him out of service.

We have another Army idiot case brewing in Germany...where some guy had re-enlisted and said that his NCO promised him he wouldn’t ever have to return to Iraq. Well...a month or two after signing the re-enlistment papers...the unit was notified of another deployment. The guy walks out the gate and asks Germany for asylum. That was six years ago. The Germans have yet to approve the case, and he’s been sitting for the whole time in some refugee center in Bavaria. Normally, they accept asylum seekers...but the problem in this guy’s case is that he re-enlisted....knowing full-well of the intent. They really don’t want to approve the guy’s status. So he sits there....in some two-star asylum center.


34 posted on 01/29/2015 6:50:43 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Obama could make a deal with Germany by promising to give the soldier an honorable discharge and 6 years’ back pay if they send him back. But Obama would have no incentive to do that because the soldier didn’t actually help the enemy, or get any other American soldiers killed, unlike Bergdahl.


35 posted on 01/29/2015 7:06:05 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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