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So, how's that gun free utopia working out for ya? Seems like the appeasers here in the U.S. are still striving to emulate that success. IPOS! Call 911 (999 I believe in the UK now) and see how long it take for a response. Or do you have to wait extra long for actual armed Bobby's to arrive.
1 posted on 01/23/2015 7:29:40 AM PST by rktman
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What’s that you say? You want your guns back? Well guess what? You are going to have to FIGHT for them! Maybe you should have listened to those of us who told you that you shouldn’t give them up in the first place!


2 posted on 01/23/2015 7:33:10 AM PST by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: rktman; moose07

I’d have to ask one of our UK posters about the response time for armed bobbies to arrive.
But besides that, they might find this an interesting development.
A formerly rabidly anti-gun author wrote this?
Holy smokes!
Ping to Moose to share with fellow compatriots from his side of the pond.


3 posted on 01/23/2015 7:33:11 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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In the past I have fully and enthusiastically supported the UK’s complete ban on hand guns. But immediately after the killing of Lee Rigby I began to reconsider the wisdom of that ban and I now utterly oppose it.

Before you were "enthusiastically" for a gun ban, but now you are "utterly" opposed. This is a result of making decisions based upon your emotional reaction to events rather than upon principles.

7 posted on 01/23/2015 7:38:17 AM PST by Blennos
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I love how the rich and powerful in the U.S. who are surrounded by 24 hour armed security (either private or paid for by taxpayer dollars) are opposed to it for average Americans trying to defend themselves and their families.


8 posted on 01/23/2015 7:38:22 AM PST by Perseverando (In Washington it's common knowledge that Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible to be POTUS.)
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I doubt I’ll live to see a day when a government returns liberty to it’s charges. The Peasants are unarmed, they pose no threat to the ruling class. All else is simply political collateral damage in these times of Sharia Law encroachment.

The world is not filled with Neville Chamberlins.


10 posted on 01/23/2015 7:40:54 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (POPOF. President Of Pants On Fire.)
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During WWII American civilians donated large quantities of small arms to the British due to the impending invasion. Too bad they confiscated and destroyed them. They’d come in handy for this invasion as well!


11 posted on 01/23/2015 7:41:23 AM PST by GMMC0987
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“In countries where guns are illegal, only the criminals have guns” is the frankly mad situation we now have in the UK.

Well, there’s one that finally woke up. IIRC Australia is very similar with their gun laws.


12 posted on 01/23/2015 7:44:21 AM PST by V_TWIN
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The author finally sees the difference between good men with guns and bad men with guns.

Now when bad men with guns become an acute problem (not the guns themselves this time) then they wake up.

Good people don't shoot other good people so one must contemplate exactly why someone would oppose good people being armed.

15 posted on 01/23/2015 7:45:29 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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Once you give up your rights its hard to get them back. Never forget that.


21 posted on 01/23/2015 7:49:00 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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A shotgun is an effective home defense firearm. But not in U.K. where defensive gun use results in automatic arrest.

Better judged by twelve than carried by six, I guess.

U.K. police have WAY too much discretionary powers IMO.


26 posted on 01/23/2015 7:55:31 AM PST by elcid1970 ("I am a radicalized infidel.")
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This is where we find ourselves now. Every citizen in Europe and the UK faces the risk of an Islamic attack merely while going about normal day-to-day business.

Sounds like the way Israel lives.

31 posted on 01/23/2015 8:03:35 AM PST by ncpatriot
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In the past I have fully and enthusiastically supported the UK’s complete ban on hand guns. But immediately after the killing of Lee Rigby I began to reconsider the wisdom of that ban and I now utterly oppose it.

So it was ok when it was just poor people living in crime ridden neighborhoods who lived in fear with no way to defend themselves. Now that journalists, JOURNALISTS I TELL YOU, actually have to live in fear guns in the hands of the citizenry seem like a good idea. Well let me tell this fool that his betters in the upper crust, the ones with the armed body guards, the one's who's lies he regurgitated in print, the ones he helped take away guns in the first place, find him quite expendable.

33 posted on 01/23/2015 8:03:54 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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1—Its not gun free. Handguns on the mainland were banned after 1997, rifles and shotguns legal. 2.3m legal guns in the UK, down from 2.6m in 1996.

2—Its always been 999 here. As another poster said, average will be 3-5m.

3—If the emergency caller makes clear guns are involved, armed units and officers will be sent, instead of normal officers (who are armed with 50000v tasers).


40 posted on 01/23/2015 8:13:32 AM PST by the scotsman
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British subjects armed?

NO WAY!

41 posted on 01/23/2015 8:15:14 AM PST by TYVets
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Mr. Brady:
Unfortunate last name.
This probably won’t help with your dilemma, but many Americans are armed with better small arms than your soldiers, not only with sidearms but battle rifles and kit. (For that matter, our own soldiers.)
That must be why so many of you Brits who “fully and completely supported the UK’s complete ban” considered us to be yahoo cowboys. Oh well. We see it, once again, differently. Good to see you have come around though.
Cheers,
America’s Minutemen & Hoplites


44 posted on 01/23/2015 8:19:50 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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better late than never, I suppose. although as “late” goes
it’s quite late


80 posted on 01/25/2015 9:06:25 PM PST by cycjec
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