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To: itsahoot; WMarshal
WMarshal: It is amazing how many Freepers are more than happy for abusive big government. [underlined portion omitted by itsahoot]

You find it strange that freepers can be happy without being stoned?

This remains a clumsy deception - WMarshal said nothing about FReepers being stoned or not.

Your clumsy deceptive omission proves only one thing

You

No, WMarshal.

presume that if governments take actions to prevent the moral destruction of the society they must be abusive.

No, he says that banning pot for adults is abusive big government - YOU presume that the absence of such laws would mean the moral destruction of the society.

Absolute Freedom always leads to anarchy

Nobody here supports anarchy - what many of us support is limiting government to protecting individual rights, which are not violated by someone else smoking pot.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --October 11, 1798 John Adams

Indeed - but no Founding Father ever claimed that government cold make people moral or religious.

291 posted on 01/26/2015 10:44:00 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom
Indeed - but no Founding Father ever claimed that government cold make people moral or religious.

Nope but it was clear that if the people failed to be moral voluntarily then the Republic would fail and likely a tyrannical leader would arise and enforce their version of goodness.

Where have we seen such happen? Russia, China, Germany......

292 posted on 01/26/2015 1:04:38 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs.98¢-89¢<1 dim)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Thanks for the backup. I missed that I was partially quoted. I find that too many “law and order” types have totalitarian impulses and an impulse to lie and distort the arguments like a lefty loon.

One of the reasons that I am against the knee-jerk response of that type to every problem with “there ought to be a law” is that too many laws lead to abuse by the authorities and contempt for the law from harassed citizens.

I find it hilarious and tragic that the US has draconian punishments for people who make poor personal decisions and then promotes welfare that leads to dependence and provides immunity from the consequences of those same poor personal decisions.


293 posted on 01/26/2015 5:59:31 PM PST by WMarshal (Free citizen, never a subject or a civilian)
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