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Test Finds [39% of] College Graduates Lack Skills for White-Collar Jobs
Wall St. Journal ^ | January 16, 2014 | Douglas Belkin

Posted on 01/17/2015 6:24:17 AM PST by grundle

Four in 10 U.S. college students graduate without the complex reasoning skills to manage white-collar work, according to the results of a test of nearly 32,000 students.

The test, which was administered at 169 colleges and universities in 2013 and 2014 and released Thursday, reveals broad variation in the intellectual development of the nation’s students depending on the type and even location of the school they attend.

... many still graduate without the ability to read a scatterplot, construct a cohesive argument or identify a logical fallacy.

The exam, known as the Collegiate Learning Assessment Plus, measures the intellectual gains made between freshman and senior year. The test doesn’t cover subject-area knowledge; rather it assesses things like critical thinking, analytical reasoning, document literacy, writing and communication—essentially mimicking the baseline demands for professionals.

“These are the skills that are important no matter what you are doing; if you’re serving on a jury or looking for a good candidate to vote for, these are highly transferrable skills,” Ms. James said.

The test comes at a time of rising tuition and student debt and a broad rethinking of the value of a college degree in a changing job market. Last month, President Barack Obama spelled out plans for a college-rating system that aims to assess how well schools prepare students for the work world, among other criteria.

The 40% of students tested who didn’t meet a standard deemed “proficient” were unable to distinguish the quality of evidence in building an argument or express the appropriate level of conviction in their conclusion.


(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


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KEYWORDS: college; collegegrads; commoncore; dumbingdown; education; h1b
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To: Mamzelle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scatter_plot


21 posted on 01/17/2015 6:51:19 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: grania

The world needs ditch diggers too.


22 posted on 01/17/2015 6:54:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: txrefugee

Agreed, especially due to affirmative action.


23 posted on 01/17/2015 6:54:10 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: grundle

In the late 1970s, my dept head hired a young black lady as a technical writer. She had a college degree (Psychology major) from a state university.

The lady could not even write a complete sentence. She would sidle up to others in the department and ask them to help her compose her reports.

After a couple of months of this, I happened to be in a research room when another staffer came in. In the general conversation, the topic became the new tech writer. We both had the same problem — spending too much time trying to help the black lady write up her assignments. Then, the head tech writer came into the room and we included her in our discussion. WE were all on the same page. We didn’t have time to do OUR work and the black lady’s work. The head writer took our complaints to the Dept. Head. He was forced to release her. Luckily for him and the company, she was still on her intitial employment probationary period.

We wondered how she managed to get through high school and college and not be about to write a sentence. Additionally, we wondered what her thinking was that she would apply for a job as a technical writer. Surely, she knew how limited her writing skills were.


24 posted on 01/17/2015 6:56:57 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: grundle

If they could identify a logical fallacy, they’d be far smarter than most of their professors who scarf down every liberal lunacy from global warming to multiculturalism that comes down the pike without seemingly the need to swallow.


25 posted on 01/17/2015 6:57:35 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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To: grundle

Seeing as how the independence that goes with teaching these things—and the portents for people who make decisions on their OWN—impacts this study and the work world, we should not be surprised that these things are not taught.


26 posted on 01/17/2015 6:59:23 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: grundle

I would imagine that the number is about the same
for college kids to hold a BLUE collar job.


27 posted on 01/17/2015 6:59:30 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: grundle

You don’t really need those skills to do most white collar work. Especially not entry level like you’d be doing right out of college.


28 posted on 01/17/2015 6:59:54 AM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: TomGuy

My question would be: How did the company hire her in the first place if her skills were so lacking?


29 posted on 01/17/2015 7:02:22 AM PST by Bob (Violence in islam? That's not a bug; it's a feature.)
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To: Chewbarkah

The article points out potential the methodological deficiencies of the study. For those of you with liberal arts degrees, that means it’s bullshit.


30 posted on 01/17/2015 7:02:51 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: RoosterRedux

Do you think our brilliant POTUS could explain that?


31 posted on 01/17/2015 7:07:11 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RoosterRedux; Mamzelle
OK..What's a scatterplot?

No kiddin'...here's the kind I grew up with.


32 posted on 01/17/2015 7:08:55 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: grania
I understand your reasoning, but I don't like the idea of pigeonholing people into college-bound, not college bound based on their early life experiences. One of the great things about this country, that is not replicated in lots of places around the world, is that one can be a ‘late bloomer’ and achieve amazing things. I agree with making vocational training more widely available, but also think that we should not be looking at vocational training as an alternative for ‘those who aren't suited for college’. Actually, there are probably plenty of people who did well in college that just don't have it in them to be a good tradesman, and who wouldn't do well with vocational training.

That said, I very strongly believe that an important component of getting beyond the expenses incurred for higher education, and the unpreparedness of those going out into the work force, is to expand online courses and learning, start the use of these in elementary school, diminish the requirement for ‘bricks and mortar’ institutions in this context, and institute privately administrated standardized testing to determine whether or not a person has mastered a specific level of expertise in an given area. This could be done with most things, and I guarantee that many who never attend a university physically will out test those who do.

33 posted on 01/17/2015 7:12:47 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Well, I see the uses in three dimensions!


34 posted on 01/17/2015 7:15:58 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: grundle
Become a Doctor of Social Justice!
35 posted on 01/17/2015 7:16:43 AM PST by pabianice (LINE)
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To: grundle

What is the reason for having “white collar workers” in an organization? Let’s break it down a little. What is the reason for having a white collar worker in a business? What is the reason for having a white collar worker in government?


36 posted on 01/17/2015 7:17:00 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
An electrician who runs his own business is more autonomous and wealthy than an engineer who does not. I agree with your assertion, but try to drive this idea home to a young person in our educational system.

It's hard enough to explain autonomy and working for a living in the same paragraph…they all think autonomy means you don't have to work.

37 posted on 01/17/2015 7:18:19 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Bob

Some of us dept staffers wondered the same.

The Dept Head (male) bought into the current (at that time) corporate mentality of hiring minorities and females. A black female was a nice 2-fer. He did have a bad case of 'white privilege' even then.


38 posted on 01/17/2015 7:18:42 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: pabianice

There’s one of these at Clemson University who has been making the news, and was in Furgeson,,..Chenjerai Kumanyika


39 posted on 01/17/2015 7:19:15 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: grania

But fewer “college” “students” would mean a reduction in the faculty of schools, and that translates into fewer $$$ for the DNC and other progressives.


40 posted on 01/17/2015 7:21:20 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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