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What’s a good Republican voter to do now?
Personal Liberty ^ | 1/12/2015 | Bob Livingston

Posted on 01/17/2015 4:14:11 AM PST by HomerBohn

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To: HomerBohn

“Casting a vote for a candidate who has not actively campaigned and does not have the support to be speaker is an indirect vote for Nancy Pelosi, and I will not vote for Nancy Pelosi.”

This is, of course, a lie, unless Republicans don’t show up to vote, since they have a majority of the House and a majority of those present and voting is the requirement to elect a speaker of the house.


21 posted on 01/17/2015 7:22:53 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: HomerBohn
Our Founding Fathers well understood the sinful nature of mankind and that applies in spades to politicians as well. That is why the Founders set up a system with so many checks and balances. Over the years politicians found ways around them or nullified them and we are left with the wreckage. What is needed is a RESET and that was provided for in Article V.

We should not think that our fellow sinners or any political party can or will ultimately deliver us from evil. Only God can do that. Prayer for deliverance and a national revival by the Holy Spirit should be right up there at the top of our lists of priorities. In the end, only the Lord can save us from our self-destruction.

Woe to those who go down to Egypt for help, And rely on horses,
Who trust in chariots because they are many,
And in horsemen because they are very strong,
But who do not look to the Holy One of Israel,
Nor seek the Lord!...

For the Lord is our Judge,
The Lord is our Lawgiver,
The Lord is our King;
He will save us... (Isaiah 31:1, 33:22)


22 posted on 01/17/2015 7:24:44 AM PST by Gritty (Muslims are using the pieties of political correctness to enforce a universal submission-Mark Steyn)
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To: HomerBohn

Forgot a few others

1) No ‘benefits’ paid from the Treasury. Public service was (IS) to be a altruistic act.

2) (Though I can find no basis in the act, at it stands currently), D.C. shall have NO immunity to any law/act/regulation or the like that effects We the People in any manner.

3) No $$ shall be given by any entity that can not vote (no biz, no unions, no unions, etc.)

4) Sunshine Law for D.C. - We the People have every right to know the working of those they elect to office. No closed doors, no secret meetings, etc. w/out a loss of office immediately.


23 posted on 01/17/2015 9:06:34 AM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: thirst4truth

No, it would make the GOP run people whom would bring out the vote (and the funding, that’s #1).

It currently matters not, since the GOP presumes all votes belong to whomever they foist as the flag-bearer


24 posted on 01/17/2015 9:09:28 AM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: HomerBohn; Candor7; Diana in Wisconsin; nathanbedford
The following promises were made by John Boehner in a Wall Street Journal editorial in 2010:

• No earmarks. Earmarks have become a symbol of a broken Washington, and an entire lobbying industry has been created around them. The speaker of the House shouldn't use the power of the office to raid the federal Treasury for pork-barrel projects. To the contrary, the speaker should be an advocate for ending the current earmark process, and should adhere to a personal no-earmarks policy that stands as an example for all members of Congress to follow.

I have maintained a no-earmarks policy throughout my time of service in Congress. I believe the House must adopt a moratorium on all earmarks as a signal of our commitment to ending business as usual in the spending process.

• Let Americans read bills before they are brought to a vote. The speaker of the House should not allow any bill to come to a vote that has not been posted publicly online for at least three days. Members of Congress and the American people must have the opportunity to read it.

Similarly, the speaker should insist that every bill include a clause citing where in the Constitution Congress is given the power to pass it. Bills that can't pass this test shouldn't get a vote. House Republicans' new governing agenda, "A Pledge to America," calls for the speaker to implement such reforms immediately.

• No more "comprehensive" bills. The next speaker should put an end to so-called comprehensive bills with thousands of pages of legislative text that make it easy to hide spending projects and job-killing policies. President Obama's massive "stimulus" and health-care bills, written behind closed doors with minimal public scrutiny, were the last straw for many Americans. The American people are not well-served by "comprehensive," and they are rightly suspicious of the adjective.

• No more bills written behind closed doors in the speaker's office. Bills should be written by legislators in committee in plain public view. Issues should be advanced one at a time, and the speaker should place an emphasis on smaller, more focused legislation that is properly scrutinized, constitutionally sound, and consistent with Americans' demand for a less-costly, less-intrusive government.

The speaker of the House, like all members of Congress, is a servant of the American people. The individual entrusted with that high honor and responsibility should act accordingly. A speaker's mission should not be to consolidate power in the speaker's office, but rather to ensure that elected officials uphold their oath to defend the Constitution and the American people we serve. If a speaker carries out that mission successfully, the result should be legislation that better reflects the considerable challenges we face as a nation.

The American people deserve a majority in Congress that listens to the people, focuses on their priorities and honors their demands for smaller, more accountable government. Accountability starts at the top, in the office of the speaker.

25 posted on 01/17/2015 9:28:03 AM PST by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: HomerBohn

A gentle reminder that Republican does not equal Conservative.


26 posted on 01/17/2015 10:19:37 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Baynative

BUMP!


27 posted on 01/17/2015 11:01:42 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I forgot to add that after Boehner made that grandstand statement republicans joined with democrats to reject every point!


28 posted on 01/17/2015 2:38:08 PM PST by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: HomerBohn
New party. We are considered interlopers in the GOP, and the RINOs don't really have a problem with losing elections as long as the Democrats will throw them scraps and keep them as part of the UniParty in D.C. Also, the GOPe is making it impossible to get out a coherent conservative message and in fact seems afraid to tout anything resembling American values. Honestly, when a party is picking losers like Boehner and Priebus for leadership positions, what does that say about the strength of the party? Clearly, the party inside the beltway is clueless, at best. A new party may be a tough road to hoe, but at least the message will be unfiltered and we won't have the GOP whispering sweet nothings in our ears.
29 posted on 01/17/2015 8:10:57 PM PST by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Major Matt Mason; HomerBohn; nathanbedford; Hostage; Jacquerie; Taxman; All

“The quicker we come to terms with reality about politics in America, the closer we come to serious action to restore freedom of the individual. Conservatives need to quit playing the part of an ever-returning battered spouse and recognize the Republican elites will just slap you around again next time a vote on an important liberty-related issue arises.

The government and its politicians are at war with us and they are the only ones that recognize it. How many Americans actually know that government hit men can arrest you, search you without a warrant, seize property without cause and not return it, and freeze bank accounts so that legal defense can’t be hired. All this and they may never charge you with a crime. “

New party.

It could be done much faster in today’s world.

Support Article V!

Support the Fair Tax!

http://www.fairtax.org.


30 posted on 01/17/2015 9:16:19 PM PST by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: HomerBohn

The author writes:

“They go to Washington for prestige, payola and privilege; and they retire rich.”

Really?

About 50% of Congressmen were millionaires BEFORE they were elected.

Most members of Congress earn $174,000 per year.

About 600 Congressmen are now retired.

Their median income - pension plus Social Security - is less than $5,000 per month.

Senior Congressional leaders with 25 years of employment get retirement income of about $10,000 per month.

Congressmen, serving or retired, and their spouse, get excellent health insurance for life.

And I believe the surviving spouse gets the same pension amount for life, too, but Social Security makes that a really complicated number to determine.

All in all, the job of Senator or Congressman provides a solid upper middle class income, but they do need to pay for housing in two cities, although quite a few sleep in their office and shower in the gym.


31 posted on 01/18/2015 2:10:51 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
"Their median income - pension plus Social Security - is less than $5,000 per month. Senior Congressional leaders with 25 years of employment get retirement income of about $10,000 per month."

The paycheck isn't how they become rich...

One of the ways is they use insider knowledge to invest. Another is they get hired by lobbying firms once they are out of Congress.

32 posted on 01/18/2015 2:28:46 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: HomerBohn
Re: “the nation needs a benevolent despot like Franco”

If we have to choose a benevolent despot, let's get one like they have in Hong Kong or Singapore.

Economically, Spain was a basket case from 1940-1960 under Franco.

It took Franco 20 years to finally embrace free markets and low taxation and create the “Spanish Miracle.”

33 posted on 01/18/2015 2:30:54 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

I’ll buy the Singapore model.

Great, unhampered economic growth.

Very serious penalties for buying or dealing drugs. (Death=no drug problem)


34 posted on 01/18/2015 4:59:17 AM PST by HomerBohn (God is just, but his justice cannot sleep forever!)
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To: redinIllinois
<>First and foremost, he must come to terms with the fact that voting for more Republicans to send to Washington will not change the status quo.<>

The money quote.

Obama has little time to complete his transformation. I don't believe He will allow his despotic powers to fall into the hands of a non-leftist.

35 posted on 01/18/2015 8:35:19 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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