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French Muslims feel deeply torn by viral ‘I am Charlie’ slogan
NY Times ^ | January 13, 2015 | Anthony Faiola

Posted on 01/13/2015 7:25:53 PM PST by Second Amendment First

Rather than fall quiet as requested during a national minute of silence last week, three boys in Hamid Abdelaali’s high school class in this heavily Muslim suburb of Paris staged an informal protest, speaking loudly through all 60 seconds.

In one school in Normandy, some Muslim students yelled “God is great!” in Arabic during that same moment. In a Paris middle school, another group of young Muslims politely asked not to respect the minute, arguing to their teacher, “You reap what you sow.”

Abdelaali, a 17-year-old high school senior who did observe the quiet minute, said he did so only because he was outraged by the killings in the name of his religion that were carried out But he also said he feels disgusted by a newspaper whose provocative cartoons had used the image of the prophet Muhammad for satire — and which continued to do so in its tragicomic first edition hitting newsstands Wednesday morning. “I know some kids who agreed with the attack,” he said. “I did not, but I also cannot say that I support what Charlie Hebdo is doing.”

Within France’s Muslim community of some 5 million — the largest in Europe — many are viewing the tragedy in starkly different terms from their non-Muslim compatriots. They feel deeply torn by the now-viral slogan “I am Charlie,” arguing that no, they are not Charlie at all.

Many of France’s Muslims — like Abdelaali — abhor the violence that struck the country last week. But they are also revolted by the notion that they should defend the paper. By putting the publication on a pedestal, they insist, the French are once again sidelining the Muslim community, feeding into a general sense of discrimination that, they argue, helped create the conditions for radicalization in the first place.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
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1 posted on 01/13/2015 7:25:53 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

The feelings of some people matter.

When Christians are insulted or murdered? Not news for NY TIMES.


2 posted on 01/13/2015 7:28:14 PM PST by TigerClaws
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Leave it to NYT to emote over this “multicultural” plight.


3 posted on 01/13/2015 7:28:56 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Second Amendment First
Legal systems should tell non-Muslims -- "Do what you think is best. There will be no prosecution."
Legal systems should also tell Muslims -- "Don't step out of line, or the full force of law will come crashing down on you."

Kids talking during a moment of silence? Other kids should have "dealt with" that.

It's time for street justice.

4 posted on 01/13/2015 7:29:17 PM PST by ClearCase_guy ("Hey, I don't appreciate your lack of sarcasm.")
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To: TigerClaws

5 posted on 01/13/2015 7:29:23 PM PST by caww
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To: Second Amendment First
Too bad. Time to realize you are following a false religion and have been brainwashed. Too bad, to bad and two bads....
6 posted on 01/13/2015 7:29:31 PM PST by Fungi (Fungi--the reason we have antibiotics, cheese, bread, wine, and humor.)
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To: TigerClaws

Prezactly.


7 posted on 01/13/2015 7:29:47 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: Second Amendment First

Imagine if this were Turkey and there were a few Christian students complaining that they felt uncomfortable if Christian anarchists had attacked a Turkish paper that insulted Jesus. Think it would be pretty? Wonder if those Muslim students have any idea the tolerance and freedom the West affords them.


8 posted on 01/13/2015 7:33:29 PM PST by allendale
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To: Second Amendment First

Not as torn as the victims.

Boo frickin’ hoo for those Muslims who sit by and do nothing against these misbegotten terrorists.


9 posted on 01/13/2015 7:33:50 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: caww

I agree with Churchill. Not previously familiar with the quote, I formed a similar opinion.


10 posted on 01/13/2015 7:33:58 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Second Amendment First
In one school in Normandy, some Muslim students yelled “God is great!” in Arabic during that same moment.

Damn, now we have to go back there again to throw out another group of invaders.

11 posted on 01/13/2015 7:34:25 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Second Amendment First

The leftist media keeps getting this wrong, intentionally I believe.

When muslims shout “Allah hu akbar” they are saying Allah is GREATER. Greater than whom? Why, the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, Yahweh, Jehovah.

One more time for clarity, “Allah” does NOT mean “God.” If muslims worship the same God as jews and christians, and have since the time of Isaac and Esau, why did they change his name?

Allah is the desert moon god (you never noticed the crescent moon symbol)? Roughly the same God as Ba’al, the one requiring the burning alive of human sacrifice, the same one who slaughter babies and pregnant women, the same one who required its followers to cut their scalps and bleed (see 2 Kings 18). Very old, very primitive, requires the blood of the enemy, great violence and suffering.

Totally different conceptual framework from the God worshipped by jews and christians.

Not opinion, historical fact.

Remember this. When the ‘slims are shouting allah hu akbar, they are challenging the other God.

They should do it a bit more quietly, he may awaken, sooner than they think.


12 posted on 01/13/2015 7:34:31 PM PST by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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To: Second Amendment First

Je suis Charles Martel.


13 posted on 01/13/2015 7:35:21 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Gene Eric

Me too....Churchill had some amazing quotes when the time came for war....and he wasn’t about sitting still unitl the job was done, nor unable to identify the enemy.


14 posted on 01/13/2015 7:36:47 PM PST by caww
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To: Second Amendment First

I have no respect for the FRENCH students who didn’t beat the CRAP out of their fellow students who did this.


15 posted on 01/13/2015 7:36:49 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Second Amendment First

>>> discrimination that, they argue, helped create the conditions for radicalization in the first place <<<

The conditions for radicalization were created in the 9th century. By a pedophile hater.


16 posted on 01/13/2015 7:37:09 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Second Amendment First

If your “Religion” cannot handle living peacefully in a free society, the obvious solution is to go home, or go to a Sharia saddled county, until then ‘Feme la Bouche!


17 posted on 01/13/2015 7:37:57 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Second Amendment First

The Ummah has invaded France.

I do not feel the least bit sorry for them.

There will be a huge battle.

The Ummah either becomes French or it must be destroyed.This is Frances only alternative outside of continuous warfare.


18 posted on 01/13/2015 7:38:09 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Second Amendment First

“some Muslim students yelled “God is great!” in Arabic;
another group, arguing to their teacher, “You reap what you sow.””

Back when they were 1% or 2% of the population, they simply would not have done that. Now they are starting to reach the point where they feel emboldened to do so...one doesn’t have to use much imagination what they’ll be ready to do next.


19 posted on 01/13/2015 7:38:57 PM PST by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win.)
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To: P.O.E.
They aren't torn ...they're simply too afraid of their own belief system to do the right thing....they are conditioned with fear and respond to fear...that is their mindset and instilled in them from childhood.

Most muslims lack any critical thinking capacity even within Islam itself...they are trained to obey...period.

20 posted on 01/13/2015 7:39:27 PM PST by caww
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