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To: PapaNew

The session of Congress is now known as the 114th Session of Congress.

Answer a few simple questions:

1. If your flat tax idea passes, what is to prevent future sessions of Congress from amending it?

2. Over the last 10 years why has the HR 25 FairTax had more than ten times the number of sponsoring members in Congress than the Flat Tax?

3. With respect to flat tax/no deduction laws:
a. How many have been passed in US history?
b. What year was the first flat tax/no deduction passed?
c. Why did they not succeed?


100 posted on 01/13/2015 8:00:17 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

OK, I’m seeing some really good arguments against the income tax, even a flat tax.

But the first and most difficult issue is the 16the Amendment. If it’s a valid, legally ratified amendment, forget it, it won’t be repealed and your best shot is a flat income tax.

But if it could in fact be proven in court that the amendment was never ratified, then the states could begin working on nullifying an illegal and invalid “amendment.”

If the 16A proved to be legally bogus, then we’re back to Art I Sec 9 Clause 4 of the U.S. Constitution which only allows taxation based on proportion of (state?) census, which sounds like a flat rate, but not an income tax. A tax based on proportional population based on the census could mean no income OR consumption tax - simply a tax based on proportion of population based on the census


103 posted on 01/13/2015 8:23:20 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Hostage
2. Over the last 10 years why has the HR 25 FairTax had more than ten times the number of sponsoring members in Congress than the Flat Tax?
So? Where has it got you? Why not?

3. With respect to flat taxFairtax/no deduction laws:
a. How many have been passed in US world history?
b. What year was the first flat taxFairtax/no deduction passed?
c. Why did they not hasn't it succeeded?
40 + states have sales taxes, some with no income tax, why can't you get yours passed?...Because, beginning with the rate itself it's being sold with lies and half truths.
You people have wasted 15+ yrs., including a Republican President with a Republican Congress and all you did was stomp your feet and jump up and down about how 23% is the same as 30%...Pure lunacy.

If you Fairtaxers want to see one reason why it doesn't get anywhere, look in a mirror.

107 posted on 01/13/2015 10:43:51 AM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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