Posted on 01/12/2015 1:47:26 PM PST by Morgana
Nothing the Supreme Court does is gratuitous - don't be naive.
Person is defined in the statutes as equivalent to individual and varieties of corporations and government employees. That's just a fact.
A natural person is not a statutory "person." A "person" is an incorporated natural person, ie one with representational authority to, or of, a corporate body, including being an employee of the United States itself.
Birth certificates are only required of incorporated individuals, and establish a presumption of incorporation of a minor. Citizens are individuals who have pledged allegiance to the country. They are different from native-born Americans, who need no declarations or vows to establish their God-given rights under the Constitution.
I still think you are mixing up “citizen” and “person.”
The Congress could FIND that every natural person (i.e., every human organism) is a person within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. Having been BORN, irrelevant. Having certain kinds of parents, irrelevant. Having been born in certain places, irrelevant. All that stuff about incorporation is totally irrelevant.
I don’t know what you think “gratuitous” means, but it doesn’t mean “without any motive.” Of course the USSC had a motive; they wanted to “legalize” abortion.
When I said their assertion that the unborn child is not a “person” is “gratuitous,” I meant that they asserted it without any BASIS, without any RATIONAL JUSTIFICATION.
It was, as Rehnquist wrote, an “exercise of raw judicial power.”
You are 100% totally, absolutely wrong. These are established legal definitions, not open to change. The entirety of American statutory law depends on them. If Congress "voted" to change these definitions, the legal system would collapse. You have no idea what you are talking about.
The basis was to explicitly limit the applicability of the decision to the limitations of the legal definition of a "14th Amendment person." I have already described those limitations in my previous post. In doing this, the Court was being EXTREMELY rational - it made sure that there could be NO OTHER APPLICATION of its ruling.
Roberts did the same thing with his Obamacare ruling - explicit statements of LIMITED jurisdictional application.
So tell me: What categories of unborn babies are people NOT allowed to abort?
If you're talking about the law, then I would say it does not address "people" at all, because that is a word that is invoked by the original Constitution ("We the People") before statutory law was generally adopted.
Statutory law is codified - it's literally a code. It uses common words, but gives them specific, uncommon meanings. That's the little "secret" you learn in law school.
For example, the plumbing code will talk about, "any person who does x or y or z has to have a plumbing license, pass inspections, blah, blah, blah..." But in the definitions section, or elsewhere in the plumbing code, there will be something that says the subject matter of the code is licensed plumbers. Well, that means that if you're not a licensed plumber, then the "person" indicated by the plumbing code isn't you.
Nevertheless, people still get charged under the plumbing code anyway, and then they're asked, "well, are you a person, or not?" And of course, not knowing any of this code crap, they say they are. Then the authorities get to use that against them, because they "claimed" they are subject to the plumbing code.
It's an open secret. ALL the codes are like this. And incorporation is HOW they do it, because a corporation is not made by God - it's made by the government. And so the government claims the right to absolutely control what corporations can do - and what their employees and investors and officers can do.
That's it, that's all of it. That's American law. It's stunningly simple, it's applied to literally everything, everybody believes it addresses everyone and - it doesn't. But try telling that to someone! You want to see people really pissed off, show them they're already free.
Whatever. Believe what you want - everyone does anyway, LOL!
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