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Americans don't want a revolution despite Elizabeth Warren's sounds of alarm for the middle class
The London Telegraph ^ | January 11, 2015 | Peter Foster in Washington

Posted on 01/11/2015 4:42:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Ideological splits among Republicans have been part of the fun of the American political fair for more than 50 years now, but what of potential divisions on the Left?

When Barack Obama departs the White House in 2016, the question already being asked is whether Democrats will now suffer the same kind of upheaval that the Tea Party inflicted on Republicans after George W. Bush left office in 2008.

Last week in Washington DC it was possible to hear the opening shots of what some left-wing Democrats hope will become a similarly fierce fight for the ideological soul of their own party.

They were fired by Elizabeth Warren, a banker-bashing Massachusetts senator who has been a darling the American Left ever since the financial crisis when she championed the rights of let-down consumers over the bailed-out bankers.

A 65-year-old former Harvard Law professor from working class roots, Mrs Warren achieved sudden prominence in 2011 after a speech about how wealthy Americans owed much of their success to the state went viral online.....

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: cromnibus; doddfrank; economy; elizabethwarren; fauxahontas; lieawatha; massachusetts; middleclass; unemployment
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Americans don't want a revolution despite Elizabeth Warren's sounds of alarm for the middle class

Not so sure about that. When fascist leftards are in charge, Constitutional freedom IS revolutionary.

21 posted on 01/11/2015 5:34:06 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

She’s very clean and articulate!


22 posted on 01/11/2015 5:34:58 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Party would not have allowed her to be elected if she was actually going to change the status quo. She’ll talk the talk to get the base to believe she’s for the little guy, then legislate to enlarge government and benefit her donors.


23 posted on 01/11/2015 5:38:02 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: molson209

dose the fake squaw really think she is going to lead any kind of revolt or uprising???? Maybe against her but she can’t lead a meeting much less a meeting.


24 posted on 01/11/2015 5:44:07 PM PST by oldenuff2no (Retired US ARMY Ranger.)
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To: Regal

Whenever you see a major screw up in the economy, you can be sure it’s due to government monkeying with things. Big banks get away with things because of government policies that promote such activity. When government tries to take risk out of the equation, it promotes recklessness. Nothing makes things less fair than government notions of fairness.


25 posted on 01/11/2015 5:48:51 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy.” ~ Franz Kafka


26 posted on 01/11/2015 5:49:25 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: molson209

The people who voted for him still believe what he said. Because most of them don’t know what he said other than “hope and change”.


27 posted on 01/11/2015 6:17:03 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy. And so are republican voters.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Food stamps have gone from 17m to 47m.
That’s a lot of votes that were bought for 2012 and future Democrat candidates.
And the MSM never once seemed to worry about the “deficit” it took to do it.


28 posted on 01/11/2015 6:19:20 PM PST by nascarnation (....)
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To: wastedyears

So the likes of Fake Indian is then looking to go Joe Stalin?


29 posted on 01/11/2015 6:48:38 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Regal

Banks partly to blame due to the crony capitalists making deals with the government. Some of the other banks though were forced into the situation of making high risk loans due to the strong arming by the government (Dodd-Frank anyone?). Both contributed to the situation.

Crony capitalism is not capitalism. It is borderline fascism, where there is some negotiating with the crocodile to get eaten last. NO DAMMIT, YOU KILL THE CROCODILE!


30 posted on 01/11/2015 6:53:15 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Fred Hayek

Why wouldn’t they?


31 posted on 01/11/2015 8:12:47 PM PST by wastedyears (I may be stupid, but at least I'm not Darwin Awards stupid.)
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To: Fred Hayek

Dodd-Frank was Post ‘2008

Here is what conservatives have to be willing to accept

The welfare state in America is no longer welfare going down the poor in the inner cities or rural America, it is the billions of dollars that go to Wall Street, big energy (being old oil companies or new solar companies) and defense contractors who have enriched everyone inside the beltway

The corporate welfare state is NOT conservative and is a result of the gov’t hand in the economy. However the beneficiaries of this control the levers of power in America.


32 posted on 01/11/2015 8:36:01 PM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32
Agreed. I think Eisenhower was on to this, but I think he used terminology which allowed his message to get lost. Eisenhower warned people about the "Military-Industrial Complex". Well, that is not inaccurate -- as you say, the defense contractors are in the mix and part of the problem. Our ships and planes cost far more than they should, because defense contractors know how to get money from the government.

But it goes beyond the military. The collusion between Big Government and Big Business is probably our biggest challenge. It's Crony Capitalism, it's Fascism. Eisenhower could have done us a favor by talking about the Government-Industrial Complex -- we defeated Germany's version of this, and we defeated Japan's version of this, and Eisenhower was facing Russia's version of this.

Now we succumb to ourselves. We have met the enemy and he is us. ObamaCare is just one piece of it -- Big Government and Big Insurance, and the people get screwed. The amount of money in the pot is huge, and so the corruption is inevitable.

33 posted on 01/11/2015 8:42:59 PM PST by ClearCase_guy ("Hey, I don't appreciate your lack of sarcasm.")
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To: Lizavetta

The Party would not have allowed her to be elected if she was actually going to change the status quo. She’ll talk the talk to get the base to believe she’s for the little guy, then legislate to enlarge government and benefit her donors.
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CORRECT , the fact that she properly identifies that banksters are the recipients of gov’t largess in the form of cash , judicial favors and inflation doesn’t mean that she doesn’t want to have it continue ,, she’ll just pull a little bit out here and there in the form of penalties and such... same as we’ve seen for the last few years... the middle class will continue to be crushed.


34 posted on 01/11/2015 8:45:51 PM PST by Neidermeyer ("Our courts should not be collection agencies for crooks." — John Waihee, Governor of Hawaii, 1986-)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not her kooky kind of revolution.


35 posted on 01/11/2015 8:49:08 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ClearCase_guy

They often cite what Eisenhower said about the “Military-Industrial Complex” but you don’t hear much about some of the other quotes.

“The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present — and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”

“Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society’s future, we — you and I, and our government — must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.”

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Eisenhower%27s_farewell_address_(press_copy)


36 posted on 01/11/2015 9:12:56 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Tzimisce

“Now I’m listening to the great Marxist acolyte Lizzy Warren lecture me about how her Socialist plans are going to help the middle class.”

You can’t have a democracy without a strong middle class. When the middle class is increasingly dumbed down and restricted in their options to improve -the conditions are ripe for a dictatorship.

Coward-Pivan at work.


37 posted on 01/11/2015 10:56:31 PM PST by Hardens Hollow (Formerly yorkiemom. I couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow. Join us!)
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To: Fred Hayek

“She wants as repeat of the Bolshevik Revolution. It will be 1776 instead.”

That’s what I think. The timing is all wrong. TPTB are rushing to collapse the system quickly, yet there are still many of us around willing to fight for the Constitution and the country we remember. In just one generation, they could have their communist utopia for the asking.


38 posted on 01/11/2015 10:59:36 PM PST by Hardens Hollow (Formerly yorkiemom. I couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow. Join us!)
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To: wastedyears

“The government has the National Guard, practically all department employees are able to carry weapons, regular military, special forces, fighter aircraft, fighter-bombers, bombers, submarines, the UN, attack helicopters, drones, night vision, FLIR, infrared, general tech more advanced than we can get, and if all else fails, nukes.”

You are assuming those government employees will fire on US citizens, many their neighbors and family.

I’m assuming many will not.


39 posted on 01/11/2015 11:03:16 PM PST by Hardens Hollow (Formerly yorkiemom. I couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow. Join us!)
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To: Pining_4_TX

““Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy.” ~ Franz Kafka”

The one 239 years ago didn’t.


40 posted on 01/11/2015 11:05:35 PM PST by Hardens Hollow (Formerly yorkiemom. I couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow. Join us!)
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