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Average US Household Wealth Plunges to Only $656,039!! Details: Jan. 11 Investment & Finance Thread
Weekly investment & finance thread ^ | Jan. 11, 2015 | Freeper Investors

Posted on 01/11/2015 10:06:38 AM PST by expat_panama

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1 posted on 01/11/2015 10:06:38 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: 1010RD; A Cyrenian; abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; AK_47_7.62x39; Aliska; aposiopetic; Aquamarine; ..

We got it made in the shade ping.

2 posted on 01/11/2015 10:08:50 AM PST by expat_panama
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The top 1% in wealth is believed to start at about $4 million, but no one knows for sure because wealth does not have to be reported except at death.

The top 5% is thought to start at about $2.7 million or so.

But these numbers are both just guesses. Read more here:

http://www.joshuakennon.com/how-much-money-does-it-take-to-be-in-the-top-1-of-wealth-and-net-worth-in-the-united-states/


4 posted on 01/11/2015 10:12:35 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: expat_panama

I stopped after “Average”.


5 posted on 01/11/2015 10:17:01 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: CatOwner

Here’s another interesting article I found by following some links:

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/investment_manager.html


6 posted on 01/11/2015 10:20:49 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: expat_panama
$422,126 in stocks and business assets for the average American? Then things are really skewed, because wouldn't the "average" put a US household in the top 5% or so? And how does that jive with half the US population receiving some form(s) of benefits?

If this statistic is true, it means that "averages" have become meaningless. A sensible statistician with no prior agenda would look at quartiles and medians.

JMHO

7 posted on 01/11/2015 10:21:14 AM PST by grania
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...about $4 million, but no one knows for sure ...

and nobody could really know for sure anyway;  the wife & I were talking about this and merely saying how much the house was worth fogged up the convo beyond all recognition.

8 posted on 01/11/2015 10:22:54 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Bill Gates walks into a bar.. The average wealth of the patrons and staff becomes well over a billion $.

Until he walks out.


9 posted on 01/11/2015 10:23:28 AM PST by cicero2k
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To: expat_panama

I stopped when I thought it meant I was going to have to count what I have, because that is so depressing.


10 posted on 01/11/2015 10:26:29 AM PST by pallis (I like white people)
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To: grania

Meaningless blog post. The meaningful number would be median, upper half and lower half.

Median net worth of US families is less than $100k, and it’s been going down under Obama.


11 posted on 01/11/2015 10:26:36 AM PST by hlmencken3 (“I paid for an argument, but you’re just contradicting!”)
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To: expat_panama

Remember that the $422,000 for stocks and bonds is based upon current values. I think most people will be devastated when it finally becomes apparent that most of the publicly traded corporations have been gutted and have little or no value. Creative accounting, stock buybacks with borrowed money, assets marked to fictitious values, etc. will become to the forefront as people try to cash in for retirement.


12 posted on 01/11/2015 10:28:25 AM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Benghazi Clinton killed 4 & injured a dozen as SOS, imagine what she could do as CinC.)
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To: expat_panama

When calculating my net worth, I normally do not include non-financial assets. That makes everything a lot simpler.

Unless you own rental property, your real estate is just a place to live and an expense. You can’t very well live without having a place to live, whether you buy it or rent it.

It does count as part of your estate; your heirs will sell it and spend the money!


13 posted on 01/11/2015 10:28:32 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: RetiredTexasVet

It depends on how you want to evaluate companies. Standard economic theory says a company is worth the value of its discounted future after-tax cash flows. Of course, there are many gaps in GAAP, but you can’t hide lack of real profits in the long run.

I usually tend to ignore the income statement and look at the cash flow statement.


14 posted on 01/11/2015 10:30:53 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

So its really not what you make but what you keep.


15 posted on 01/11/2015 10:33:23 AM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: expat_panama

Lol...I got $650...that’s before taxes. Somebody talk to the CEO of my company. We have to increase our productivity in order for him to afford a 6000 square foot garage for his collectable autos.


16 posted on 01/11/2015 10:33:48 AM PST by Dallas59
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$422,126 in stocks and business assets for the average American?

--the average American household.

You're right though, the word 'average' has it's limits.  iow, it screams "FOOD FIGHT!!!".  The Fed just posts the totals and here's how it's broken down:

(billion)
Corporate equities  $12,885
Mutual fund shares $7,620
Security credit $893
Life insurance reserves $1,259
Pension entitlements $20,499
Equity in noncorporate business $9,188

17 posted on 01/11/2015 10:36:31 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

You can’t take it with you!


18 posted on 01/11/2015 10:37:24 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: hlmencken3

And while it was posted in News instead of Bloggers, at least it wasn’t excerpted


19 posted on 01/11/2015 10:39:36 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: expat_panama

The average household has half a million dollars in stocks or business, bonds, or deposits? What planet is he living on?


20 posted on 01/11/2015 10:39:47 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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