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Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 1/09/2015 | Patrick O’Connor And

Posted on 01/09/2015 4:07:09 PM PST by presidio9

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To: presidio9
I think I get your point that the term “ideological purity” is a red flag for you. Is there a different one that you prefer?

Good lord, man. Were you not spending time here at FR during, and right after the 2012 election? If you were, then surely you're well familiar with the epithet, "purist", that has been thrown in the faces of honest conservatives by the Romney apologists.

The term has even leaked out into the blogosphere. I've seen articles posted here, where GOP-e strategists and assorted RINO pundits have used it in the same way as the Romney posse at FR.

For the apologists, we "purists" are responsible for staying home and handing the 2012 election to Obama, due to the fact that we couldn't bring ourselves to vote for Romney, who's violated nearly every one of our mutually held conservative principles.

These apologists have actually had the audacity to accuse us of living by our principles, and not succumbing to political pressure to elect a man who does not share them.

You're darn right, the term is a 'red flag' for me.

301 posted on 01/09/2015 8:48:37 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: presidio9

Maybe’s he’s casting Paul Ryan aside this time and wants a Romney-Jebbie ticket.


302 posted on 01/09/2015 8:49:22 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: presidio9
The problem with the rinos and some around here is that they start with the premise we all should vote for whoever can win. No one knows the future, and that's how we end up with RINOS. Idiots like rove and 1/2 of Fox News convince some people they know who can win (and it' always a rino) and who can't win (always conservative). Why do these Rino’s always claim to be conservative, I mean seriously conservative if a conservative can't win? Rinos ALWAYS LOSE; just look at mccain, romney,....They can't get the base. Period. They trash conservatives and treat democrats with respect. We need to stop the madness of repeating the same mistake over and over only to lose. Stop listening to the roves of this world. He has lead the party to the left only to lose. Do what we tell democrats to do. Stop believing the lies of the party leaders and look at what's important. Candidates past actions and where they stand on issues (don't trust convenient conversions.)
A conservative stands strong and has a background of defending life, the sanctity of marriage, wants to REPEAL obamacare, and secure the borders.......conservative values. Please don't tell people your conservative around here and then tell us to drop issues important to us and vote to a Rino.
303 posted on 01/09/2015 8:49:53 PM PST by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

LOL!

Brother, you do get on a roll now and then. That cracked me up.


304 posted on 01/09/2015 8:50:50 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Santorum must be courting the Trayvon Martin vote; he was quick to defend Trayvon without knowing the facts. I wonder if he can remember to get on the VA ballot in 2016, not that it will make any difference.


305 posted on 01/09/2015 8:52:27 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Finny
I'm with you again, Finny. I remember the flak we took in 2012 for helping to defeat Romney.

If necessary, we'll do it again. I will welcome the insults again - "OMG, what will happen to our country without Mitt Romney?"'

In a way, it was hilarious. It still is funny. Mitt Romney belongs on a golf course, folks.

307 posted on 01/09/2015 8:55:50 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yeah, I voted Romney last time ‘cause I didn’t realize that the majority of the Rs had gone as far as they had in being treacherous filth.

This time, I want him to run in hopes of splitting the leftist voters between him, Jeb, and a whole bunch more leftist-types, with a single actual principled candidate that conservatives can unite around.

And failing that, I want a new political party. I just wish I could start one myself, but I think that we’d need some big names to announce it.

That and I need to do a lot of praying.


308 posted on 01/09/2015 8:56:41 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Windflier

We aim to please. We dont OFTEN please...but we aim to ;)


309 posted on 01/09/2015 8:58:34 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Landru/Romney 2016: "Are you Of the Body, Brother?")
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To: Omniscient Certitude

I’ll vote for someone I agree with 80% of the time. If desperate, I might even vote for someone who I barely agree with at all if the opposition is somehow worse.

But I’ve passed the point of desperate. Romney and his ilk are just as bad as the Democrats, just with a prettier face. They proved that quite a few times.


310 posted on 01/09/2015 9:00:40 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin

Glad you saw the light.

I’ll say this as before...All more Rinos do id give more ;outs’ for people. More excuses. If Jeb fails, theirs christie. If doughboy tanks, there’s Rand. If Rand chokes there’s Mitt. If Mitt flips, there’s Perry....

Nowhere is a Cruz considered.


311 posted on 01/09/2015 9:00:42 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Landru/Romney 2016: "Are you Of the Body, Brother?")
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To: Tau Food; Finny
I'm with you again, Finny. I remember the flak we took in 2012 for helping to defeat Romney.

Count me in. With you then and with you now.

If the GOPE pushes Romney to the nomination again, it's time for a new party.

312 posted on 01/09/2015 9:01:11 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Much violence and crime can be explained by the Bell Curve (Bing it))
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To: presidio9

Walker “We can be reasonably confident that there are no skeletons in his closet after three high profile campaigns that included a recall election.”

That is definitely a plus. I have not decided who to back for primary but for sure, it is not Romney! FUMR


313 posted on 01/09/2015 9:03:31 PM PST by make no mistake
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To: Tau Food

I REALLY like that tagline.


314 posted on 01/09/2015 9:06:42 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Landru/Romney 2016: "Are you Of the Body, Brother?")
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To: presidio9
"It's why we conservatives have to band together behind ONE candidate early on, and resist all efforts to divide us."

I'm confused. I thought that's just what I've been saying all along. Either I haven't made myself clear enough, or you saw the term "ideological purity" and convinced yourself that I was saying something else.

You're not confused. Neither am I.

You seem primed and ready to begin selling an establishment candidate, because........Democrats. I know the patter well, and have seen political types begin the conversation just this way, about a year out from a presidential primary.

You've already begun with the tired old bromides about choosing "someone who can win". That's politi-code for "Support the GOP-e candidate because he's better than the Democrat."

You back that assertion up with several mouthfuls of arcane political calculus/analysis in order to convince the gullible among us to avoid computing with our core values and deeply held principles. "No, no, no. Don't go there. You must look at this pragmatically."

Sigh....

It all gets so tiresome. Myself and millions of other conservative (read: normal) Americans are sick to death of all of it. We're practically done with seeking a political solution to a problem that can no longer be addressed within our rigged and FUBAR 'system'.

If I've read you wrong, and you're honestly seeking to throw your complete support behind the best conservative who runs, then I apologize, but that's not what I'm getting out of your many posts on this thread.

315 posted on 01/09/2015 9:07:43 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Finny

Not a matter of belief. They think we are minimized and simply do not care.

They are likely right to think that. Look at this thread alone.


316 posted on 01/09/2015 9:08:09 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Landru/Romney 2016: "Are you Of the Body, Brother?")
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To: Windflier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGKNaIXtBZQ


317 posted on 01/09/2015 9:11:58 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Landru/Romney 2016: "Are you Of the Body, Brother?")
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To: presidio9
...I cast my vote for whatever "R" is on the ticket. These are the types of concessions you have to make when you are a conservative in a place that elects people like Bill De Blasio for its leaders.

How is that any different from living in a place that elects a Marxist like Barack Obama? Twice!

You've obviously fallen into the trap of believing that 'any R is better than a D.' The long slide left by the Republican party over the last four decades should have taught you by now, that voting RINO only begets more RINOs to vote for.

If Republican voters had simply stood by their shared American principles decades ago, and had rejected tools like Ford, Dole, Bush I, et al, we wouldn't be having this conversation now. The Republicans would have lost too many elections as a result of running candidates who were ideologically opposed to the base.

The party would have been forced to change course, and would have begun running candidates who truly spoke to the needs and wants of the people. There would have been a force multiplier effect, as more and more conservative office holders rose through the ranks. Today, the party might just be run by those more ideologically bound to the people.

We'll never get the sort of political representation we desire by voting for those who don't share our values. That's like voting for Dems and hoping that someday conservatives will dominate. It's obviously completely nuts when you express it that way, but that's exactly what 'pragmatic' Republican voters do when they vote RINO.

318 posted on 01/09/2015 9:24:48 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: presidio9
I won't put words in his mouth, but I believe that if you asked him, he would acknowledge the sad fact that candidate Ronald Reagan would have a difficult time winning a republican primary in 2016.

I appreciate you not putting those words in my mouth, because I would have spat them right out.

I don't believe for a second that Ronald Reagan wouldn't have the same appeal today, that he had in 1980. After eight years of Imam Obama, I think he'd have even more, and would capture the nomination in a walk.

319 posted on 01/09/2015 9:27:30 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I don’t call it cynical. I think it’s a fairly safe reading of the electorate.

Take your hardnose off, brother, and remember the tsunami of November 2014. Dems were handed their asses from coast to coast, and at every level of government.

The only thing saving the Dems' skins at this point, is the Republican leadership in Washington.

The electorate is angry at Obama's anti-American agenda, and voted to STOP it in its tracks. That's the real mandate of the people. Don't let recent betrayals against us cloud that fact for you.

320 posted on 01/09/2015 9:32:29 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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