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Unarmed French police literally retreated in the face of Islamist attackers
Hotair ^ | 01/07/2015 | Noah Rothman

Posted on 01/07/2015 10:28:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The two French police officers, who both lost their lives in the effort to prevent the Charlie Hebdo attackers from executing their grim mission, are heroes. Their sacrifice in defense of their fellow citizens is beyond noble, and their bravery will be remembered in the coming days.

It is not a knock on Parisian police but French domestic policy to note and criticize the fact that the first responders who arrived at the scene on bicycles and without defensive weaponry were entirely unprepared to face an ongoing attack by murderous, AK-47-wieldling Islamist gunmen. The first police to arrive at the scene of the attack were forced to withdraw in the face of superior firepower.

The Guardian reported.

“We heard shouting in the street,” Benoît Bringer, who works at a press agency on the same floor as the magazine’s offices, told France Info radio. “We saw hooded men carrying Kalashnikovs entering the building. We called the police. After a few minutes we heard heavy firing – a lot of firing, a hell of a lot. We went upstairs to take shelter on the roof. Then after about 10 minutes we saw two armed men come out on to the street. There was more shouting, more firing.

“Three policemen had arrived on bikes but had to leave because the men were armed, obviously … Then the attackers took off in a car.”

Another, unnamed witness from an office across the corridor said she and her colleagues had heard “a huge boom”. “Then someone opened the door to our office and asked where Charlie Hebdo was. He had a rifle. We backed away. Afterwards he left, we heard gunfire. We went to the windows, there were two men running with guns, speaking in bad French … They were shouting outside, and shooting again. Afterwards I saw someone leaving the building with his hands covered in blood.” [Emphasis added]

It is speculative at this stage, but it is also relatively safe to assume that if those officers had been armed they would have had an opportunity to disable the attackers before they fled. As a result of the lack of preparedness on the part of the Parisian police, the three gunmen who killed 12 and wounded 11 more remain at large. Perhaps this atrocity will result in a review of Paris’s counter-terror planning ahead of the next terrorist incident. It is surely coming.

As an aside, the final paragraph of that block quote is interesting. All morning, cable news analysts in the United States have been assuring their audiences that the audio of the attackers indicates that the terrorists were locals. They spoke perfect French, the analysts asserted, and their accents did not indicate any foreign origin.

But the local Parisians who recalled hearing the attackers speak “bad French” suggests otherwise. Now, comments like these could be simple chauvinism. The majority Muslim areas of Paris are often sequestered from the rest of French society and might have developed their own French dialects (at least to the ear of the native Parisian). But this observation from a witness to this attack at least raises an element of doubt as to just how homegrown it truly was.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: france; guncontrol; gunfreezone; islam; islamists; paris; police
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To: MeshugeMikey

A year or two ago I think French young people were raising some hell about Islam. They had flags and had climbed buildings and such. I will look around and see if I can find those stories. I wonder why they stopped?


41 posted on 01/07/2015 10:56:18 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: SeekAndFind

Are Europeans nuts? They allow Muslims to flood into their countries, get on the dole, spout hate in their mosques…and fail to arm the police! Unbelievable. No wonder the good old US of A had to fight their wars for them.


42 posted on 01/07/2015 10:57:00 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: miss marmelstein

EXACT QUOTE:

“This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of our U.S. Armed Forces?

U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?”


43 posted on 01/07/2015 10:57:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: miss marmelstein
Prayers for everyone, in particular the cop who was just murdered in the coldest blood imaginable.

I blame in part the French themselves. Idiots believe unarmed police and gun free zones protect people. Lets hope they wake up.

 photo 33duond_zps33891f9a.jpg

44 posted on 01/07/2015 11:03:50 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: DaveA37
the local Parisians who recalled hearing the attackers speak “bad French”.

There are conflicting reports which will have to be ironed out._Tom

from Pam Geller-
—She says men ‘who spoke perfect French’ claimed to be Al Qaeda terrorists
—Attackers were reportedly heard shouting: ‘the Prophet has been avenged’—The masked men asked people’s names before killing editor and cartoonist

45 posted on 01/07/2015 11:04:34 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: AppyPappy
“They were asking for it” is slowly beginning to trend.

I fart in their general direction.

46 posted on 01/07/2015 11:06:11 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

A truly stunning and painful photo.


47 posted on 01/07/2015 11:08:37 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good.)
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To: SeekAndFind

When seconds count,,,,

10 MINUTES !!???

for Unarmed cops to Arrive?


48 posted on 01/07/2015 11:09:06 AM PST by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Illeagal is not synonymous with unavailable


49 posted on 01/07/2015 11:11:00 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

now available in Black and White

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3244424/posts?page=47#47


50 posted on 01/07/2015 11:14:25 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Irenic

generation identitaire


51 posted on 01/07/2015 11:14:33 AM PST by magna carta
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder what response there will be, or even a “proportional” response.

Actually I don’t like “proportional” responses. The response to savage Islamic attacks should be grossly disproportionate, for example identifying the base of support and then killing a thousand of them for each one of us they kill.


52 posted on 01/07/2015 11:14:57 AM PST by baltimorepoet
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To: 556x45

The most famous example were the two bank robbers in LA a few years back. Armed to the teeth with automatic weapons and full body armor; local cops arriving on scene had their service weapons and shotguns. Some of the officers ran to a nearby gun store to “borrow” AR-15s and ammo. The robbers kept dozens of police at bay for an extended period; if I’m not mistakken, the police finally killed one of them and the other suspect killed himself.


53 posted on 01/07/2015 11:15:01 AM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Responsibility2nd

They were conferring together, “what kind of ticket should we write them?”


54 posted on 01/07/2015 11:16:13 AM PST by Newtoidaho
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To: MeshugeMikey

The thing that’s kind of amazing to me is that no one
on the roof thought about throwing bricks or blocks or
chairs etc at the killers in the street.

Also, in a satirical vein, imagine this happening
at the offices of MAD magazine. Bill Gaines assassinated.
When are “free” people going to have enough of this crap.


55 posted on 01/07/2015 11:17:19 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Irenic
the last thing I can find is this photo from back in 2012




56 posted on 01/07/2015 11:17:36 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: ExNewsExSpook

Right, they got one and the other ran dry or was corner and offed himself. I must say that those guys came fairly prepared. I was thinking of the KA riots where the police barracked the neighborhood and let things ‘take their course’. The Koreans took all sorts of heat in the media for defending their stores.


57 posted on 01/07/2015 11:19:08 AM PST by 556x45
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To: nonliberal
They’re french. Did you expect less?

Whip out your gongs and and give us a short description of your tales of daring-do.

When the English were saved by many small boats, who was their rearguard?

Where did they go?

58 posted on 01/07/2015 11:20:38 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good.)
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To: DaveA37

***“the local Parisians who recalled hearing the attackers speak “bad French”.***

Strange. FOX just reported they spoke perfect French.


59 posted on 01/07/2015 11:20:51 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: DaveA37
“.....without defensive weaponry were entirely unprepared to face an ongoing attack by murderous, AK-47-wieldling Islamist gunmen. The first police to arrive at the scene of the attack were forced to withdraw in the face of superior firepower”

And we don't want our police forces to have military weaponry superior to potentially similar foes, because we're afraid they'll use them on us. There must be some kind of balance - somehow, some way.

60 posted on 01/07/2015 11:22:01 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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