A lot of stupidity on display from FReepers.
First, we do not know what happened to Flight 8501. Speculation is as irresponsible as that after Ferguson
Wait for facts.
Second, plenty of misinformation on pilot training on display. I will refrain from saying lies and allow ignorance to be bliss.
If pilots are not getting enough simulator time, that is the fault of the FAA primarily, who sets the minimums.
But one only has to look and see that when pilots had more manual control, more people died.
Stories like this feed the fear of those who are not intelligent enough to understand how automation makes systems better or feed the nostalgia of the ill-informed.
Flying is safer today than ever in our history and flight automation has made it so.
You are dead on. All this hand wringing is silly at best. Informed professionals are not doing the talking with silly articles like this. Always look for the agenda.
When it is a Boeing that crashes, it is “a mystery, could be pilot error.” An Airbus? It is, “pilot error, didn’t know how to fly because those French made the airplanes too automatic.”
The fact is, the latest Boeings have the same level of automation as Airbus. The commentators are just hoping the reading public is too stupid to know...
However, if I had come in before your browbeating, my comment would be more terse.
There are many studies that factually frame what's going on in the cockpit. But giving pilots a pass with such abuse is completely reckless without at least referencing C.R.M. (Crew Resource Management).
The link provided by NYer contains MUCH more information than just a discussion on the so-called 'evils of automation'; I suggest everyone read it.
Because the fact is that CRM is slow to be adopted by foreign airlines and the combination of elitist, underskilled foreign pilots and highly-advanced aircraft will lead to more 'mysterious crashes'.
I'll wait for the facts of my own accord, as your own ignorance is on display referring to 'fault of the FAA' when this was a foreign-flagged flight flying overseas...there is a HUGE dichotomy between training & requirements for foreign pilots vs. US pilots. ICAO standards are not US standards and Indonesia rates a '2' under FAA's International Aviation Safety Assessment (IASA) Program:
Category 2 means the air carriers from the assessed state cannot initiate new service and are restricted to current levels of any existing service to the United States while corrective actions are underway.Travelers beware...FAA does not support reciprocal code-share arrangements between air carriers for the assessed state and U.S. carriers when the CAA has been rated Category 2. During this time, the foreign air carrier serving the United States is subject to additional inspections at U.S. airports
Thank you and agreed. It’s way too easy to assume “we’ve gone too far” with the technology when something goes wrong...only to forget how many lives have been saved by them, avoiding human mistakes.
It’ll be the same thing once we have self-driving cars. They’ll eventually be better than average (human) drivers...but *when* an accident occurs everyone will be suing and blaming them.
I would agree with everything you say, as long as you can admit that it applies only to US pilots.
This incident involved a foreign owned plane, and foreign pilots. Their ‘rules’ and ‘policies’ are likely different than ours.