Posted on 12/28/2014 7:45:33 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Philadelphia prosecutors agreed last Thursday to halt efforts to seize the homes of two of the lead plaintiffs in a widely publicized federal suit challenging the city’s use of civil forfeiture laws in drug cases.
Philadelphia drops a Civil Asset Forfeiture case to prevent any court from ruling just seizing people’s property is unconstitutional. Phily.COM has reported the case of Christos Sourovelis and Doila Welch,who were both caught up in having their homes seized to pay police pensions when the police arrested a relative they claimed was dealing drugs on their properties. Today, you basically have to shun relatives and never pick up a hick-hiker in trouble for if they have any drugs, even marijuana, there goes your assets.
The prosecutors, only after these people has money for lawyers and the press got involved, moved for dismissal in Common Pleas Court. The prosecutor agreed to drop the cases against properties as long as both owners took “reasonable measures” to ensure no further drug crimes occurred there.
Here is the entire problem. Only the rich can win for it is your burden to fork-over huge legal fees. If you do not have the money for lawyers, there goes your property. This is what is desperately wrong in America. Any law passed becomes your burden to prove it is unconstitutional. They can actually pass the ancient right of kings under the Common Law since there is precedent known as Prima Noctum – first night. The governor, mayor, county freeholder, whoever, could “legally” claim the right to spend the first night in bed with any women getting married in their district. It would then become your burden to say – NO. That is uncivilized.
There is ABSOLUTELY nothing as it now stands for them to pass such a law. It is then the public’s burden to say no way and fight. This is seriously wrong within out legal system. This allows police to kill people randomly or to pull every person over on their way to work to see if they have all their identification. Whatever they do is OK because they do not FIRST have to go to some constitutional court and ask – is this law justified? Consequently, only the rich can defend the constitution. All others can pray – that’s about it.
This is the final stage of the collapse of the Roman Empire. When the state runs out of money, it historically attacks the people. In Rome, whole armies began sacking their own cities to get paid. The police are doing just that. Whatever they can confiscate goes to funding their own pensions. This is a national problem that will only get much worse going into 2020. We have NOBODY in Washington representing the people any more. It is all about them v the people. This is why we will see a rise in third-party activity for 2016.
What prosecutor is a Saint? Interested in logical Justice? Not a ‘Rat?
Philadelphia drops ... to prevent any court from ruling just seizing people’s property is unconstitutional —
So we can’t take a chance that forfeiture will be declared unconstitutional for all the rest of us.
Is that how this pans out?????
Lovely background for stories, but no such law ever existed, at least not in Christian Europe.
Hey, it was in a movie. It must be true.
So they backed off, simply so that they can continue doing the same thing to others.
Very instructive.
excellent, excellent, thank you! The New Yorker, mirabile
dicu had an article about this about a year ago; it was
acceptable but nowhere near as good as this.
I’m not justifying the seizure of their property but the “relative” mentioned in the article was their son and he was dealing heroin.
Why leave out these facts in the article by playing semantic games?
yes... what next?
Here’s an actual INSTRUCTOR, giddily telling the who auditorium exactly how to steal the property of the voters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjmJXZICNDk
The very end is equally amazing; the lecturer says he’s HAPPY for pot legalization, as people are bound to start selling it out of their houses, thereby making their HOMES into easy targets for seizure.
“Then we’ll sell their homes and LIVE LIKE CZARS, maybe..!!”
That’s an exact quote.
During the Middle Ages there were probably lords who did such things, but it was never legal.
Braveheart was one of the least historically accurate movies ever made, a field in which it has considerable competition.
[ Here’s an actual INSTRUCTOR, giddily telling the who auditorium exactly how to steal the property of the voters: ]
If I was in the audience I would have asked him this question:
“Doesn’t Asset Forfeiture encourage corruption in police departments?”
And watch the A-hole try to justify that.
So this is literally “Highway Robbery” By the state.....
Sounds like JUST LIKE the Sheriff of Nottingham pulled the same sort of crap.
[ I’m not justifying the seizure of their property but the “relative” mentioned in the article was their son and he was dealing heroin.
Why leave out these facts in the article by playing semantic games? ]
What would have happened should the parents have discovered this before the cops arrested him and chained him in the basement to prevent him from selling drubs, well CPS would have taken the son and then the police Dept would have taken the house....
“This is why we will see a rise in third-party activity for 2016.”
Party?! Third, fourth, fifth party, it won’t matter. Politics is not the solution.
If only that was a crime he could have been arrested and imprisioned for.
The kid doesn’t own the house, therefore they are full of sh1t at its face.
I know... What say the cops take a 747 because there were drugs being smuggled.
I say we throw the Captain and the company ceo in jail for good measure, and take their houses and bank accounts too. Let’s do that.
NO.
“the final stage of the collapse of the Roman Empire” was the establishment’s subsidy of the media.
The same ‘stage’ we have today in America.
The ‘right’ news isn’t free.
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