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To: GingisK
I taught math in Tennessee for many years before retiring. The math Common Core standards are not that much different than the previous state standards. They're pretty non-controversial, and I think it makes sense in a mobile society to have some sort of standardization.

If a family moves from Virginia to Nevada, the idea is that their children would be on grade level and able to transition fairly smoothly. This is not a bad thing.

The problem is what it has always been: Teachers and textbook/curriculum providers find ways to bugger up the most rational concepts.

It's not the standards themselves, it's the teachers. I challenge anyone to look at the actual standards for math and find anything politically charged.

My friend who is an English teacher says the same thing about the Language Arts standards. The standard may say, "Read and discuss a biography." But the teacher assigns "The Autobiography of Malcom X" and blames Common Core.

Nobody wants to believe that the teacher who lives down the street is a left wing fruitcake.

17 posted on 12/25/2014 7:50:11 AM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: TontoKowalski
Nobody wants to believe that the teacher who lives down the street is a left wing fruitcake.

I assume that unless proven otherwise...

Of course they consider me a right wing extremist radical hell bent on forming a USA christian theocracy.../ S

18 posted on 12/25/2014 7:55:13 AM PST by Popman
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To: TontoKowalski

” The math Common Core standards are not that much different than the previous state standards.”

I think what’s happened with Common Core is that the radicals finally painted a huge target on themselves. For example, we had Everyday Math and Mathland (I think that was the absolutely horrendous one) before Common Core.

But Everyday Math is approved by Common Core, so people associate the two (Mathland was so bad that even public schools couldn’t stomach it).

So, Common Core, at least for math really isn’t any worse than what is being used...it’s just that people now have a MUCH EASIER way way to take it on, and for that, I’m happy.


24 posted on 12/25/2014 8:08:23 AM PST by BobL (I'm so old, I can remember when most hate crimes were committed by whites - Thomas Sowell, 2014)
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To: TontoKowalski
If a family moves from Virginia to Nevada, the idea is that their children would be on grade level and able to transition fairly smoothly. This is not a bad thing.

That's exactly what the problem is here. You've had this idea of "grades" ingrained in your psyche because that's the way schools have been operating for years. There's nothing to say that a grade-based system is ideal for educating children at all.

Actually, this goes to the bigger question about what I've said for years: Does a public school system even have a place in a free nation?

I don't know about anyone else, but my answer to this question is a resounding NO.

37 posted on 12/25/2014 8:40:49 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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