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California schools step up efforts to help 'long-term English learners'
Los Angeles Times ^ | December 17, 2014 | TERESA WATANABE

Posted on 12/23/2014 9:42:38 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: GeronL

California voters, by an overwhelming majority, passed Proposition 227 mandating English-immersion schooling in 1998.

Democrat leftists in charge of education, to their eternal shame, broke the law and ignored it. The child in the article who can’t speak English after 11 years in Los Angeles public schools is a product of their arrogance and lawlessness.


21 posted on 12/23/2014 11:31:09 AM PST by BigBobber (`)
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To: reaganaut1

+1


22 posted on 12/23/2014 11:56:21 AM PST by Bigg Red (Congress, do your duty and repo his pen and his phone.)
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To: GeronL

how about English immersion, teach them quickly

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No, no, can’t do that. There are far too many ESOL teachers who are running up the cost of public education by having these illegals in their classes.


23 posted on 12/23/2014 11:57:48 AM PST by Bigg Red (Congress, do your duty and repo his pen and his phone.)
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To: GeronL

how about English immersion


Back in the “olden days” (’74), there were two guys, fresh off the boat, from Portugal, in my study hall. They couldn’t speak A WORD of English, but they were good guys. Another guy, whose parents were Portuguese, would translate, and, we became friendly, in spite of the language barrier.

Three years later, I was walking to class in the local college, and someone called my name. After exchanging some pleasantries, I said “Henry, you speak wonderful English - how so?”. “This is America, if you want to live here, you better learn” he replied. Too bad he didn’t have some government program, watching out for his “best” interest /s.


24 posted on 12/23/2014 12:24:34 PM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: reaganaut1; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Ping!

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25 posted on 12/23/2014 1:00:44 PM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from my back porch...soon, so will you!)
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Just another mad, mad day in Mexifornia.

Mexican gangs be offin’ each other Big Time in Watsonville and Salinas, two towns that used to be squeaky clean and quiet.

Now they’re just Mexican war zones.


26 posted on 12/23/2014 1:21:45 PM PST by Regulator
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To: GeronL

“”how about English immersion, teach them quickly”””

See- it’s racist, xenophobic, bigoted and demeaning comments like that that gives FR a bad name.


27 posted on 12/23/2014 1:44:37 PM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Regulator

Salinas? I remember my time in that area (Monterey, Watsonville, Gilroy, Salinas), just as you describe it. Quiet, friendly.

For a long time we’ve seen an undercurrent on FR predicting CWII. Reckon it’s here...


28 posted on 12/23/2014 2:09:01 PM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from my back porch...soon, so will you!)
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To: oldbill

Yo soy Racista?


29 posted on 12/23/2014 2:10:15 PM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from my back porch...soon, so will you!)
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To: sheana
After more than 11 years in Los Angeles public schools, Dasha Cifuentes still isn’t speaking or writing English at grade level.

So she got passed along, year after year, not learning English.

Clearly, the ONLY solution is to give the schools that did this to her and many others like her MORE MONEY!! Then and only then will they be able to help the Dashas of the world.

(/sarc)

30 posted on 12/23/2014 2:20:13 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: HiJinx; reaganaut1; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...
Went to a PTA function in Santa Monica. It was conducted en español. About 20% of the parents did not speak Spanish. Tough.

When I suggested in Spanish, of course, that the meeting be conducted in English, with me and others translating for those who did not speak English, I was roundly booed!

Oddly enough, the fact that classes were conducted en español didn't bother me as much as the fact that nothing much was actually being taught in any language. Had to take the kid out and go private.

Immersion. Way to go. But no matter what the language, some sort of actual content might also be helpful

31 posted on 12/23/2014 4:52:02 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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What is with this Korean ability to learn Spanish in a matter of hours? Also, is it true that Korean is somehow related to Hungarian and Finnish? Inquiring minds want to know.

I noticed this during my long residence in LA. Speaking of Language Studies, how come no one is learning German in HS anymore?

32 posted on 12/23/2014 7:15:22 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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Heck, you can hardly find any schools teaching French anymore, I seem to remember back in the day French was virtually taught at every school.


33 posted on 12/23/2014 7:16:18 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: GeronL

I taught ESL for 30 years, and I know why. Many studies have shown that just two years of intensive English brings the non-English speaker up to near native speaker level.

However, that makes the students lag behind in other areas. The social costs of having older students in other classes was deemed too great, so they went with bilingual classes in which neither the coursework nor the English was mastered.

Go figger.


34 posted on 12/23/2014 7:23:03 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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A few years ago, my wife’s cousin and his family came here from Cuba.

Their two young children, didn’t speak a word of English.

Fast forward a few years, and those kids speak English....PERFECTLY!


35 posted on 12/23/2014 7:26:25 PM PST by dfwgator
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36 posted on 12/24/2014 7:29:12 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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