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It's like painting a mustache on the face of Grace Kelly


1 posted on 12/17/2014 7:19:08 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
What's wrong with the A-1?


2 posted on 12/17/2014 7:22:12 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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But...it IS sorta compelling...

...in a weird, compelling sorta way... compellingly....

The plane... NOT the mustache on the Lady Grace, that is...


3 posted on 12/17/2014 7:23:30 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
The epitome of a propeller driven flying tank:


6 posted on 12/17/2014 7:25:16 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
There's no doubt that the A-10 is a great plane, and the military would be foolish to terminate it without a comparable replacement.

I've often wondered, though, if a P-51, or the old A-1 Skyraiders, might be more suited to some of the brushfire wars that we're fighting in the Middle East. The rough field capability, in particular, would be handy, I'd think.

Would love to have FReepers more learned than I, comment.

8 posted on 12/17/2014 7:26:47 AM PST by wbill
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

They tried to push this plane for use in low intensity conflicts in the 3rd world countries. We had the A1, so who needed this? The key was low maintenance, but I would still prefer the A1 over it.


9 posted on 12/17/2014 7:27:01 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (2016 a Clinton/ Gore ticket?? The RNC better come up with Winners this time.)
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“The practically all-new aircraft married the Mustang’s basic shape to a powerful turboprop engine. The plane had a variety of other improvements...”

Then why so much dissing possibly the greatest fighter of all time?


11 posted on 12/17/2014 7:27:38 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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’ the ungainly A-10’?..............


12 posted on 12/17/2014 7:27:41 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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Something based on a P-38 lighting would have been a far better choice for a low-cost ground attack plane. You could put a big ass gun in the front and the pilot could actually see the target.
14 posted on 12/17/2014 7:29:59 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

That’s a big propeller !


21 posted on 12/17/2014 7:34:57 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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We're not trying to "replace" the A-10. We're trying to find a COIN aircraft so that we can saturate the combat zone with air support. Personally, I'd go with a armored, militarized crop duster like the Air Tractor AT-802U: ”AT-802U” Replace the hotshot fighter jocks with NCO pilots, saturate the skies with cheap COIN aircraft and kill the jihadis where ever we find them.
22 posted on 12/17/2014 7:35:50 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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Face it the A-10 is practically irreplaceable.


30 posted on 12/17/2014 7:43:23 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Face it the A-10 is practically irreplaceable.


31 posted on 12/17/2014 7:44:25 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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As I recall Chuck Spinney and other reformists were behind this. The later Moody Sutter spent many a Wednesday evening at the Ft Myer lounge discussing their misguided beliefs about warfare.


36 posted on 12/17/2014 7:48:49 AM PST by Portcall24
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At least it doesn't have the very vulnerable radiator and coolant lines that made the P-51 a fragile ground attacker.

The P-47, with its big P&W radial and 8 50 cal machine guns, was the better beast for that job.

39 posted on 12/17/2014 7:54:42 AM PST by GBA (America needs political rehab. Our political parties are addicted to O.P.M.)
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All this talk about replacing the A-10 with a light attack aircraft to “saturate” the battlefield is fine and well as a theoretical discussion. Ask pilots if they’d rather go up in an A-10 or a modernized P-51 or P-38, or an armored crop-duster, and I suspect that you’ll get a different answer.

The A-10 is simply the best ground support aircraft ever designed and fielded. It is, by today’s standards, an incredibly cheap aircraft, and it is feared by our enemies. It can and has taken huge hits, or in some cases literally hundreds of hits, and brought its crew home safely to fly, bomb and strafe another day. From my perspective, we should be building MORE of them, with suitable replacement ceramic and/or Kevlar-type armor where it would increase survivablility, range, payload, etc. New engines might increase both range and payload - it has been nearly 40 years since it was designed, after all.

Those other planes were legendary - in their time. We no longer live in the 1940s, and we owe our aircrews better technology and a better chance of dying as old men in bed than a 1940s-designed plane, however much we like the way it looks or however much nostalgia we have for it. Armored crop-dusters are a great design exercise for college or grad students, but they have no place on a battlefield in which even cave-dwelling savages have Stingers or multi-barrelled AA guns.


43 posted on 12/17/2014 8:05:12 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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Where is the 30mm gun?


46 posted on 12/17/2014 8:10:10 AM PST by GregoTX (Remember the Alamo)
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I was just discussing this plane last night. A knowledgeable source tells me the F35 is a dog.


49 posted on 12/17/2014 8:19:46 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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57 posted on 12/17/2014 8:45:29 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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Well, it kinda-sorta had the appearance of the F-51 and maybe a few compatible parts, but a Mustang it is not. Nor should it be. That platform's strength was air superiority, not ground attack.

Ground attack is all about ordnance on target. The A-10 has it. It's about range and loiter as well. The A-10 has them. We needn't even bring up survivability. If all it comes down to is "cheaper" I'm not onboard because despite what I keep telling my Air Force friends I really do want their pilots to come home in one piece. ;-)

65 posted on 12/17/2014 9:16:26 AM PST by Billthedrill
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Aviation bookmark.


71 posted on 12/17/2014 9:54:36 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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