Posted on 12/17/2014 3:49:35 AM PST by HomerBohn
I believe the feds have a purpose for the land grab out west. The debt we owe China will be paid in land.
Article I, Section 8: "To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;"
And ArticleIV, Section 3: "The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to prejudice any claims of the United States, or of any particular state."
Then all Congress has to do is pass legislation selling that land to the states first.
You do realize that it is not congress, but the BLU and other fed alphabet organizations grabbing these lands. That makes it UNconstitutional.
Sorry. BLM.
No, it's the BLM that manages the land. Anything they oversee belongs to the federal government, probably since the before the state was established. Anything they buy is done with money Congress appropriates.
If the federal government didn’t own the land to begin with then how did they get the authority to create Utah?
The BLM has been forcefully taking land all over the western US without congressional action involved.
For example?
That is the point here. The feds need to stop, the illegal activities in the acquiring of lands of the western US. The feds are up to no good and out of control.
Do a Google of BLM land acquisitions western US.
I am contending they no longer own it precisely BECAUSE it was part of the Territory of Utah, and was admitted to the Union as a State. As part of becoming a state, the entire territory went from being federally owned to being state owned (or at any rate it SHOULD have).
PS - The federal government did not “create” the state of Utah. They lack the power to “create” states.
Thanks again, by the way.
Thanks to you I discovered the “searchable” Constitution computer file I have been relying on had somehow recently been corrupted.
And when Utah was admitted as a state, Section 3, Clause 2 of the Enabling Act read: "That the people inhabiting said proposed State do agree and declare that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within the boundaries thereof; and to all lands lying within said limits owned or held by any Indian or Indian tribes; and that until the title thereto shall have been extinguished by the United States, the same shall be and remain subject to the disposition of the United States, and said Indian lands shall remain under the absolute jurisdiction and control of the Congress of the United States;" So what part of "forever disclaim all right and title" to public lands is unclear?
Then who created it?
The people of the territory of Utah.
This being the first time I have read this enabling act, there is nothing unclear about it. I guess they should not have signed away their rights to the land.
And where does the Constitution grant them the power to do so?
Kind of knocks their legal legs right out from under them, doesn't it? And I think every state in the west has similar language in their enabling acts as well. I'm not saying it's fair. And I'm certainly not saying that the states couldn't manage the land better than the BLM does. But Utah did sign their rights away when they became a state and let's not pretend there's anything illegal or unconstitutional about it. It is what it is.
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