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To: RegulatorCountry

Thanks for agreeing.

The presence of a gun creates a situation in which it is MUCH more likely that someone will die.

That’s an unintended consequence of being armed. IOW, it’s part of the price we pay for going about armed with lethal weaponry.

That price may very well be worth paying, but to my mind true conservatism recognizes that such tradeoffs exist. It’s the left that refuses to recognize that essentially all of life is tradeoffs.

Carry a gun, be expert in its use, and the chance of you or someone you’re protecting being mugged or raped goes WAY down. Part of the price for that increase in safety is a considerable increase in the chance that someone is going to die if you are attacked.

Probably the attacker, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t a somewhat increased chance of being shot even for the intended victim. Sometimes people lose control of the gun, and if there isn’t a gun on hand the chance of being shot is zero.


17 posted on 12/17/2014 3:46:58 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I’m not at all agreeing with you, and this attempt at feigning agreement is disturbing.


19 posted on 12/17/2014 3:58:42 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Sherman Logan
Part of the price for that increase in safety is a considerable increase in the chance that someone is going to die if you are attacked. Probably the attacker, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t a somewhat increased chance of being shot even for the intended victim. Sometimes people lose control of the gun, and if there isn’t a gun on hand the chance of being shot is zero.

Thugs are not going to surprise anyone when they engage in thuggish behavior.

I tried to find stats on how many times suspects (or others) go for officers' guns and I couldn't find one. But I did find this article (from AP from 2005) which says the FBI doesn't keep that stat. Not every office who looses his weapon is shot).

Cases of Officers Killed by Their Own Guns Likely Will Not Change R.I. Policies (May 2, 2005 The Associated Press)

Over a recent six-week period, a handful of officers from Rhode Island to Illinois had their guns taken from them after they allegedly were overpowered by suspects or inmates. In each case, the ending was deadly.

The incidents have shaken departments and raised questions about safety procedures. But some law enforcement experts say not much will change _ and shouldn't. Despite the latest tragedies, they say there's no evidence that basic procedure is failing officers...

There are no national statistics on how many times officers' guns are taken away. But the FBI says that of the 616 law enforcement officers killed on duty by criminals from 1994 through 2003, 52 were killed with their own weapon, amounting to 8 percent...

..Defendant Brian Nichols wasn't restrained, partly because of legal rulings against letting a jury see a defendant in shackles.

White said some courts have defendants wear stun belts, which can produce an incapacitating jolt of electricity and can be activated remotely. But a defendant in Texas last year put a sandwich between his belt's batteries and electrodes, interrupting the current, and was able to attack a witness during his trial...


42 posted on 12/17/2014 6:59:09 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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