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Should Oregon police issue commands in Spanish when facing a suspect at gunpoint?
oregonlive.com ^ | Dec. 16, 2014 | Laura Gunderson

Posted on 12/16/2014 7:28:09 AM PST by PROCON

Three McMinnville police officers faced off with Juventino Bermudez-Arenas as he held the large blade he'd just used to kill a 20-year-old Linfield College student.

Officers pulled their guns. One, who spoke Spanish, reached for her Taser but dropped it and grabbed her pistol as Bermudez-Arenas lowered his head and his hands and appeared to move forward.

Seconds before they fatally shot the 33-year-old Mexican man, police yelled, "Get on the ground," and, "Drop the knife," again and again.

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KEYWORDS: nohablaenglish; pcpolice; police
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Say audios as you pull the trigger.

Say ADIOS, vayo con Diablo.

FMCDH(BITS)

41 posted on 12/16/2014 8:15:45 AM PST by nothingnew (Hemmer and MacCullum are the worst on FNC)
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To: PROCON

When you have a guy wielding a knife dripping with the life’s blood of his victim, issue the commands in .45 caliber.


42 posted on 12/16/2014 8:15:50 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: PROCON

“Hasta la vista, baby”


43 posted on 12/16/2014 8:16:39 AM PST by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: PROCON

A man with a badge, pointing a gun and you and screaming in a loud voice is a pretty universal language.


44 posted on 12/16/2014 8:16:48 AM PST by circlecity
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To: PROCON

Si

45 posted on 12/16/2014 8:18:55 AM PST by xp38
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To: PROCON

Someone Has Seen the Future!
And it looks like this:

Any Street, Anywhere USA

Victim: Officer, officer! That man just stole my purse!

Officer: Good morning ma’m, or does that pronoun offend you. If so, please advise me of the correct pronoun I may use in order to not....

victim: Officer, you’re not listening to me! That man stole my purse.

officer: That gentleman across the street?

Victim: Yeah, that’s him.

officer: Okay, let me go talk to him.

victim: He’s a big guy, don’t you want some help?

Officer: Oh no, anything that might give the appearance of a show of force isn’t allowed.

Officer leaves to talk to the alleged suspect and then returns:

Officer: Is it a red purse with black trim and brass colored clasp with the initials MS on the side?

Victim: That’s it, my name is Mary Smith and those are my initials. That’s my purse.

Officer: I figured it was yours, he doesn’t look like the purse type. The problem is he doesn’t want to give it back.

Victim: Well, arrest him, he robbed me of that purse. He punched me, knocked me down and then took my purse. Look at this bruise on my arm, and I’m bleeding from my forehead.

Officer: I’m afraid I can’t do that. He said he wouldn’t allow me to arrest him. I can call the EMS folks though to treat you for your injuries. There will be a fee of course.

Victim: What??!! You have to arrest him. He committed a robbery and I’m the victim. I demand you arrest him.

Officer: I’m afraid I can’t do that. He said he would fight if I tried to arrest him and our new Rules Of Engagement don’t allow us to confront a hostile suspect.

Victim: Rules Of Engagement? What the hell is that?

Officer: Basically it means if the alleged suspect offers any resistance, or even says he will resist, our Rules Of Engagement say we shall not “engage”. It’s really quite simple and it makes our job much simpler. No more fights, no violence involved and everyone is much safer that way aren’t they?

Victim: But he robbed me and he’s standing right there, you mean you can’t do anything?

Officer: Oh, whether or not I could do something doesn’t matter. I’m not allowed to confront a possibly hostile suspect. Perhaps you could talk to him and see if he will come down to the precinct house and turn himself in.

Victim: That’s it? That’s all you can do?

Officer: Well, I can give you our website and you can make a report of this alleged crime. It’s a really neat website, designed by the same folks that did that Affordable Care Act site. And I’d be glad to give you the office phone numbers for Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Eric Holder.

Victim: Will they do anything?

Officer: Not really, they’re only interested if I do something.

Victim: Well did you at least get his name so I know who the bad guy is when I make this report?

Officer: No, he didn’t want to give me his name, and gosh all I can do is ask.

Victim: This is incredible. He’s just standing over there like he knows nothing will be done about this.

Officer: I know. Happens all the time now. Well, have a nice day and call any time, we’re here to help.

Victim: But officer....

Officer: You’ll have to excuse me, I have to go apologize to that gentlemen for disrupting his day.

Sounds very prophetic.

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/


46 posted on 12/16/2014 8:20:10 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: hal ogen

Lots of jobs in Arizona you can’t get if you don’t speak Spanish.


47 posted on 12/16/2014 8:20:35 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: PROCON

Seems to me this is pretty easy to understand in any language.

48 posted on 12/16/2014 8:21:52 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Booger hook is on the bang switch. Hope the picture taker wasn’t dumb enough to be right in front saying “cheese.”


49 posted on 12/16/2014 8:25:03 AM PST by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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To: PROCON

Nah. Swahili. How about Aleut? Or Kyrgyz?

Or how about just American English?

Then again, when you’re holding a knife and you’ve just committed murder and the police are shouting at you... what do you think they are saying - in whatever language?

The murdering scumbag is dead. Good.


50 posted on 12/16/2014 8:29:18 AM PST by Ray76 (Who gave the stand down order? Benghazi? Ferguson?)
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To: Cen-Tejas
What about Russian, Hebrew, Arab, Korean, Japanese, American Indian, and on and on. Where does it stop?

Esperanto?

51 posted on 12/16/2014 8:30:25 AM PST by llevrok (I fear the US government more than I do al Qaeda)
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To: TexasGator

That’s kinda what I was thinking. “Drop the f__king weapon!” is pretty much the same in any language.


52 posted on 12/16/2014 8:31:06 AM PST by IronJack
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To: KeyLargo

Wow, very prophetic indeed!


53 posted on 12/16/2014 8:37:01 AM PST by PROCON (Always give 100%...unless you're donating blood.)
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To: PROCON

Just “choot” them.


54 posted on 12/16/2014 8:40:01 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7


55 posted on 12/16/2014 8:51:18 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: PROCON
I really, really need to keep my Douglas Adams-ish satire of this sort of thing bookmarked for cases like this...
56 posted on 12/16/2014 8:57:22 AM PST by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: PROCON
Ok....why not just have The Onion do all the reporting from now on.
57 posted on 12/16/2014 9:00:48 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: PROCON

“Rosa Bermudez-Arenas, Juventino’s sister, said her brother told her that night he was going to turn himself into police, and she now questions why none of the McMinnville officers used Spanish to direct him.”

So was he standing over a body with a bloody knife? Or had those events taken place before & he had a chance to chat with his sister about it?

Typical crappola article with a journalist who needs an editor. The editor probably needs an editor!


58 posted on 12/16/2014 9:03:28 AM PST by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: PROCON
What I want to know is if the now dead 20 years old Linfield College student got to watch the demons come up to get his killer Juventino Bermudez-Arenas and take that sorry ass murderer to hell, like what Patrick Swayze saw in the movie Ghost.

Or, maybe Juventino Bermudez-Arenas is a special case and some hell hounds like on Supernatural came for him and tore him apart like a chew toy before taking him to their master?

59 posted on 12/16/2014 9:04:03 AM PST by GBA (obama's reign falls on the just and the unjust)
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To: llevrok

lol, why not?

even that would be carped at by some liberal somewhere!


60 posted on 12/16/2014 9:21:57 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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