Posted on 12/15/2014 2:38:49 PM PST by BunnySlippers
No you haven’t, the Playboy mansion is not in Chicago, inside of Bill Cosby’s home.
This generation of bimbo wants Bradley Cooper or Ryan Gosling, not a washed up TV star of yesterday they don’t even know.
They will jump in the sack with their preferred star without needing any booze or drugs. Even for a skank, being drugged and used by some guy older than your grandpa while you are unconscious is still rape.
since the W Hollywood opened in 2010, this story needs to be looked at suspiciously. Many of the real victims came out already, now comes the fraudsters.
The link has the names of all the publicly known ‘victims’.
I listed one of them, that was not Huth and Goins. Apparently you didn’t bother to read it either. I understand that the link I gave is an awfully long read, but if you really wanted to know, you would have read it all.
If there is some number that will make you happy, go for it.
I am unable to determine your ‘point’ in this debate because you seem only to be interested in trying to prove somehow that all these women were innocent victims of a mad rapist.
Yet not one of has any proof. Many of them returned to be raped/molested night after night. Do you REALLY think these women were that dumb ? The ones that were not at the Playboy Mansion alleged this occurred at places like HIS HOTEL ROOM. What were they doing there ? Why did they plan to stay overnight ?
You seem to think the whole thing is one sided, and I don’t.
We could just as easily dismiss all the ones that happened at the Playboy Club, but that still leaves the question of why these women (not all , I grant you) kept returning.
Why do young aspiring actresses and models line up at star’s doors today ? Why do groupies hang out in the dressing rooms of rock stars ?
Do you really think that Cosby is the first, and only celebrity to abuse his position for sex ?
Back to the bottom line. Why just him, and why now ?
Go to post #115 and read it until the end. HINT HINT, the important part is in BOLD.
According to the story, Bill Cosby thought it was.
It happens once in a while. No harm, no foul.
I named the two women that say they were assaulted at the Playboy mansion, you have claimed 6, and 4 and sometimes sound like you mean most of them or many of them, why can’t you name any of them?
It’s late and you haven’t responded, so I assume you may be done posting for the evening.
Thank you for your responses, and questions. You and I may not agree, but I learn more from those who disagree with me than those who agree. There is nothing wrong with your insistence on getting the facts straight, although one must consider that these women may not be giving us the facts. They are telling us HOW THEY FELT and WHAT THEY REMEMBER. Typically, those two things have little to do with fact.
Some of them may be ‘enhancing’ their story or even lying, while some of the others may not. Something happened, just what is the issue. That, and why it became an issue now.
Perhaps we can continue the debate tomorrow.
Clue: It is NOT about the victims’ ages, or the location of the incident.
It is NOT about their background, how long ago, the lack of morality in the entertainment industry.
It is ALL about the absence of consent.
Just like a minor cannot legally give consent, nor can a person who has been drugged.
Many women that are raped are embarrassed, ashamed, fearful, remorseful....and do not report it or come forward immediately.
OH, you are here. Welcome back.
I listed one of them in post #115. I guess you missed it.
The character James Coburn played was a trip.
Thank you TS. Finally someone makes a COUNTER POINT that makes sense.
If you would read your post 115 it mentions P.J. Masten, a Playboy Bunny manager who says that she was raped in Bill Cosby’s Hotel suite.
I haven’t been to Playboy club since the mid 1970s, but I know that Bunnies were waitresses in bar/restaurants.
This woman was not with Bill Cosby at the Playboy mansion, so how does she get on your list?
OK. You got me. Gee... it’s only two or three and possibly 12 more (according to P.J. Masten whom you believe) that the ‘rape’ happened ‘at’ the Playboy Club. So that would make a possible 15.
Now might it be that the reason he invited her to dinner was because he ‘knew’ her from the Playboy Club ?
I and others have made the point that Cosby may have ‘learned’ and become ‘addicted’ to this type of sexual deviancy from his time at the Playboy Club.
Nothing makes it right. I have only been trying to point out that not all of these women were the innocent and naive girls they now claim to have been. Especially the ones who returned to get the same treatment. Do you expect me to believe they didn’t really know ? One woman repeated it for four years.
Drugging someone to have sex is rape. No doubt. Maybe some of them should have considered that staying with an older man overnight in his hotel room was not a smart thing to KEEP DOING. Are these women not able to think for themselves ?
What about the other 12 she mentions ?
So far it is two.
Masten says that she was raped at a hotel, and never said a word about club/restaurant waitresses,(Playboy Bunnies), being raped at the Playboy mansion.
A Playboy club is a business, not the Playboy mansion.
“”The Playboy Club initially was a chain of nightclubs and resorts owned and operated by Playboy Enterprises.””
I went to the Playboy club in the office building next to mine, a couple of times in Kansas City, in the mid 1970s, the waitresses were called bunnies.
You are all mixed up about Hefner’s personal residence mansion, and the nightclub chain.
Nothing in life is ever that simple. For instance, the Rat Pack in Hollywood (at one time) was doing peyote. Does that make it a peyote revolution? Acid was popular, mushrooms, etc. It wasn't one thing , it was many. But the point of it was mostly to get messed up and have sex.
Then there were protest marches. Same thing. See if you can get laid at the protest march.
Sounds like Bill has doped hundreds if not thousands of people in the general public.
Hundreds maybe. Thousands I doubt. According to the stories, this happened over a long time period. Wilt Chamberlain claims over a 1000 (although I don't think he drugged them).
Regardless to the number, the fact was that he was a Superstar and 'aspiring actresses, models, and Playboy bunnies' seemed to be in good supply.
” Masten claims she knows of 12 other former bunnies who were attacked by Cosby but have not yet come forward. “
I am clear on the difference between the Playboy Clubs and the Playboy Mansion.
What is not ‘clear’ is whether the 12 other former bunnies who were attacked by Cosby were attacked at the Mansion , Club, or it’s just a coincidence that 12 women he attacked were all Playboy Bunnies.
Which do you think it is ?
Since you have been lying so far and claiming all kinds of nonsense, now you want to claim that 12 women who have not come forward, who are not identified, and that we don’t even know if they exist, were raped at the place that you want them to name, the Playboy mansion.
Shouldn’t you wait until there are 12 bunnies before you start incorporating them into your compulsive lies, and giving us the details and locations of their rapes.
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