Posted on 12/15/2014 4:03:01 AM PST by Kaslin
Without the evil, awful, regressive red-necks racists in the red states, the entire world view of the “progressives” falls apart ... Without “oppressors”, there are no “oppressed”, and without the “oppressed” there can be no Gruberian progressive “Champions of the Oppressed” (to lie and ‘divide and conquer’ their way into power) ...
Those figures assumes dept of agriculture bennies to farmers are support for rural areas when in fact these are to lower food prices so they affect the cities but are paid rurally. The farmers wouldn’t starve without these price supports but the cities would.
Welfare for giant agricultural corporations.
Just draw a radius around all the major cities?
What a beautiful dream!
Therein lies the problem. 'Democrat' America exists almost entirely in the large cities. If the Good Lord would lob some strategically placed asteroids at the 10 largest cities in the country, the democrat party would, for all practical purposes, cease to exist.
bkmk
Originally, they had somewhat similar problems with “loyalists” and those that would easily shirk their responsibility.
The solution was that one’s vote only came through property ownership. Of course it did not take long before politicians of dem mindset wireworked the vote to any free man, which led right to where we are today. No skin in the game, vote yourself access to the Treasury, even on a small scale.
Don’t misunderstand, I want as many as possible to vote, just require some intelligence and proving self responsibility. At the same time take care of any who can not take care of themselves, with the stipulation that welfare removes the right to vote during and some logical grace-period afterward.
property ownership is a pretty good proxy for “skin in the game”, “stability”, “established citizenship”, and even a proxy of intelligence and character.
This is a problem not unique to 'progressives'. It is endemic to *all* 'utopia' builders, whatever their stripe. They all, no matter what their particular cause, share the fantasy that they can build something lasting and good using the blood and bones of those who disagree with their 'vision' as a foundation.
The Good Lord spare me from such, whatever label they choose to go by, for they are the embodiment of one of Einstein's definition of insanity: "Doing the same thing repeatedly, in the exact same manner, and expecting the results to be different."
the infowarrior
Sure you can; if the cities of South Vietnam and Cambodia are held by educated elites, and the farmland is controlled by peasants, who will win?
The ones who are eating.
The South was starving by the end of the Civil War due to the disruptions in farming; they couldn’t eat what wasn’t sown/harvested. The blockade prevented them from importing sufficient food from elsewhere.
Don’t be silly...liberals don’t want to split the country...they want to rule the nation like in the “Hunger Games”
There was plenty of food being grown in most of the South. As can be seen by Sherman’s march through Georgian and the Carolinas, with most of 100,000 men sustained by the country they marched through.
Southern cities and armies had major food problems, but that was due mainly to collapse of railroads and other transport. There were also serious problems caused by a lack of salt, but again that was mostly a transport issue, and caused difficulty in preserving food, not producing it.
The South never made the slightest attempt to import bulk products like food, for fairly obvious reasons. Even if they had been able to, they wouldn’t have been able to get it to where it was needed.
Farm welfare payments are a real rat's nest. But many if not most of them are intended to keep crop prices artificially high, not bring them down. Then low-income city (and country) dwellers get food stamps so they can buy the artificially high-priced food.
The Union took a more serious approach to supply and ran a less corrupt first rate quartermaster corp that was scrutinized/inspected regularly by the high ranking officers and got attention. Actually McClellan was a master logistician if not a mediocre field commander.
Don’t know about the corruption of CSA quartermasters. But the CSA’s biggest supply problems were related to transport and lack of money with which to buy food, leading to “requisition” of supplies from farmers that wasn’t all that different from what Sherman did when marching through.
The CSA had no money and its troops needed to eat. The most honest and efficient quartermaster in the world can’t help that situation much. Especially when its transport system was much inferior to that of the Union before the War, and progressively fell apart as it progressed.
You have your view I have mine. The war was very popular in the South up to the fall of Atlanta. The CSA govt paid a lot for supplies. Nobody stole anything.
This wonderful essay describes a great idea that would have worked in the 1860s. But only without Lincoln. As president Lincoln was certainly a great poet-politician, but by far our worst president who decided that chaining the unwilling together was worth 600,000 lives and the destruction of the South’s economy ( which persists). We needed more persistent diplomacy.
The problem is that from now on we have to do what China wants us to do, because they already own us. In addition they have bought off our elites who are the middle-men earning temporary windfall profit from millions of slave laborers in China’s laogai. (The laogai are a system of slave labor camps, many of whose inmates are political dissidents or genuine Christians living in unbelievably inhuman conditions. )
Our middle-men turncoats have slandered us in our youth culture/media until most of our younger citizens now have no religion, no intact families, and no genuine allegiances.
By this essay’s date of 2019 China may have called in our debts to them. China has too many people and too few resources. They are aggressive and racist and were our capable enemies in Korea(draw) and Vietnam (defeated us).
What China did to Tibet they will do to us, that is, replace the people with Han Chinese and take over the land and resources. China even rerouted a major Tibetan river into China desiccating a large area of Tibet.
In 2029, if you are lucky, you may be alive but exist in a Laogai camp doing deep mining in Kentucky,etc.
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