I realize that certain of our enemies have gone WAY beyond smacking around. That's not the point. So don't go there. The point is if they had never gone beyond smacking around would that be ok with the people of the US to use those types of measures that were used by us as the enemy sought to gain information from us.
That's a fair question. It's not the determining question. But it is a fair question.
The days of civilized conflicts are over...terrorism in itself is antithetical to civilization
We can be as pure as the driven snow and we will gain nothing
In fact the whole debate about this stuff is phony as the Democrats who once shouted “kill ! kill! torture more!” are now the ones telling us how pure they are .......in order to appease people who haven’t got a clue and want to feel morally superior