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The CIA Smacked Around A Few Terrorists. So What?
Townhall.com ^ | December 14, 2014 | John Nantz

Posted on 12/14/2014 5:48:38 AM PST by Kaslin

Democrats are always on dubious ground whenever they use the word "stain." However, that didn't deter Senator Diane Feinstein from describing the Central Intelligence Agency’s (CIA) efforts to tease valuable information out of mass murdering jihadists as "a stain on American values and history." The CIA's enhanced interrogation program was a tease in comparison to the prehistoric barbarity of Islamic jihadists and in comparison to the horrors of actual battle.

Review the footage from the Twin Towers on that infamous day. American citizens, real people, with wives, husbands, and children threw themselves, in desperation, out of the inferno to be shattered to splinters on the sidewalk below. Any one of them would trade places with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zubaydah, or Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, who got a little water splashed in their faces. They were none the worse for wear while three thousand Americans died in very unpleasant ways on September 11th. The real stain, aside from Bill Clinton's infamous blot, is the impolite streak that the last six years of the Obama administration has left in Uncle Sam's skivvies.

Last Tuesday, December 9, the Democrats scurried to the prefabricated-crisis-cabinet and shattered the glass. Feinstein dusted off the Senate Intelligence Committee Report on Torture and spoon fed it into the thick, open mouths of the infantile mainstream media. Once properly fed, the toady media dutifully excreted the undigested, foul report and stained every available medium with the baseless political tract. Feinstein wasted no time in assuming center stage in the democrat theatre of the absurd. In politics timing is everything and the release of the report was timed, not so coincidentally, with the Gruber hearings.

Gruber must certainly be classified as a stain. Obamacare is an absurdity perpetrated on the American people by an administration occupied by immoral political autocrats bent upon subjugating the American people beneath the harness of a socialist economic tyranny, managed by a sneering plutocracy. Gruber's comments about Americans being stupid is a universally held belief among members of the Democrat party. Obama, Holder, Pelosi, Reid, Feinstein, Gruber they all think that hard working, responsible, taxpaying Americans are really stupid. That's why Obama spends so much time on the golf course--because, he thinks, the American people are too stupid to see what's going on right in front of them. That’s why Nancy Pelosi felt empowered to make the absurd remark, “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.”To the liberal elite Americans are simply stupid sheeple in need of a enlightened shepherd. And, Obama is only too happy to gather his sanctimonious robes and hoist his imperious staff. However, the crushing defeat of Democrats in the mid-term elections seems to indicate that common sense America isn’t fooled by MIT or Harvard credentials.

The Obama administration's racism is a stain. A new report from the World Values Survey has concluded that America is one of the most racially tolerant countries in the world. Common sense America already knows that, but the constant drumbeat from the Obama administration is one of racial agitation. Obama said recently that racism “is something that is deeply rooted in our society.” What a calumny! What a shameful disgrace for an American president to indict the American people as racist. What colossal irony! Obama is half black, has enjoyed the highest stations of privilege that this country has to offer and all without ever having held a real job. The U.S. Attorney General is black. A Supreme Court justice is black. One of the wealthiest persons in the country is Oprah Winfrey, a black female. Our entertainment and sports industries are dominated by black Americans. After the civil rights act of 1964, affirmative action, and relentless efforts in both the media and in education to right past injustices and to incorporate a disenfranchised people, it is the most craven deceit to claim that all these efforts have been in vain and that the American people may still be dishonored by that spurious claim. Are there instances of racism? Absolutely, and one will find instances of that in any country, but in America to a far lesser degree. Is there institutional racism in this country? Absolutely not. It is without question a relic of the past, just as the founders intended. Why else would they pen a political document that contradicted the practice of slavery directly and unequivocally? Shame on Barack Hussein Obama and every other creature of the racism industry.

The CIA's use of the enhanced interrogation program was both a legitimate use of governmental power, was moral in its implementation, and was highly successful in producing actionable intelligence. Legitimate government derives its powers from God and exercises its power within Divinely prescribed spheres of authority. When human government attempts to expand its power beyond those devolved upon it by God it becomes oppressive and; therefore, illegitimate. The power of war and police powers are specifically addressed in the Bible. Romans 13: 3,4 states:

“For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Here, the Bible describes government’s legitimate exercise of military and police power. Government’s prime directive is to encourage the good (as defined Biblically)—to pursue it and foster its growth throughout all of the body politic. In this environment the civil society flourishes. If government becomes a “terror”to good works it is no longer a Divinely sanctioned “power.”However, government is charged with God’s authority to “execute wrath”specifically on “him that doeth evil.”In fact, just governments must instill fear in those who practice evil.

The power of the sword is the power of life and death. In moral terms, conducting enhanced interrogation techniques that don’t result in death, but leave the subject of these techniques relatively unharmed, fall well within a legitimate government’s proper authority. Moreover, subjecting a terrorist to techniques specifically designed to elicit fear, pain, and anxiety fall explicitly within the Biblical boundaries, “But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid.”

Governments fail at social justice, social welfare, and social engineering because these are beyond the scope of human government as defined Biblically. But, this is precisely why government is generally successful in prosecuting war and in providing police services.

Liberals would have Americans believe that the CIA held terrorists down and extracted their fingernails with a rusty pair of pliers. Even if they had, so what? War is a hellish business because it is a human product. Brutality is a necessary component of waging war and the brutality of evil must be met by rugged men of remorseless conviction. The CIA’s interrogation techniques are positively genteel in comparison to the beheadings, stonings, and live burials perpetrated by the enemy. The hypocritical Obama administration rains down hellfire missiles in torrents, blasting people into dismembered fragments and nary a sniff is heard from the fawning, monolithic media. The men and women of the CIA are busy about saving a noble republic from the barbarians at the gate. And, they’re doing it with God’s blessing.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: california; cia; diannefeinstein; terrorism; waterboarding
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To: Kaslin

On the contrary, writers rarely choose the titles for their work, editors are employed to choose a title that will arouse interest.


81 posted on 12/15/2014 6:38:25 PM PST by Policy Wonk
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To: central_va; yldstrk
Murry mom used to really get my pressure up, until I realized the joke was on her, and started to look at the entertainment value.

Yldstrk, more a broken record, in more ways than one.

82 posted on 12/15/2014 6:47:15 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: John S Mosby

You say democrat only yet the senate intelligence committee contains 7 republicans, and if said republicans are RINOs then what incentive would the committee have to lie in the report? Would it be to cover up CIA operations so that they could interrogate more prisoners, potentially advancing our national security?

I realize that this could mean the end of the intelligence committee yet I fail to see exactly what that has to do with my original comment.

Due the vague term “’Good’ war” I fail to fully comprehend your last comment, as for communists and socialists, they have nothing to do with my original comment.


83 posted on 12/15/2014 7:44:35 PM PST by Policy Wonk
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To: Policy Wonk

You been here since June, wonk. Posted maybe 5 or 6 times. Interrogetories. Take a position, get a kit, make a plan.

If you don’t know what “the Good War” means— look it up. Great hiding place for the post WWII libs who have been apparatchiks for the comintern during and since.
Also, read about the report and stop skimming- it wasnt signed off on by ANY repub either on the committee, RINO or otherwise. The worm has turned on ole Di-Fi and company. And leaky Leahy. So you can report that to your handlers.

And Di-Fi is the queen biotch example of that ENTIRE generation, writ large and coupled with venture socialism- whether she works for the sovs or the chinee, makes no diff. She and her husband are real pieces of work— disgusting people with kabuki masks. San Fran pervs.

Critical thinking and observation— that’s what would distinguish informed dialogue.... and frankly, activism.


84 posted on 12/16/2014 7:48:32 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
Interrogatories (sic)
85 posted on 12/16/2014 7:49:41 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby

The fact I’ve been here for a short period of time is completely irrelevant to the discussion.

The fact that I haven’t posted my political views on FR does not mean I lack them, I’m not sure what you are referring to when you say kit and plan. Plan for what?

I took you advice and looked up good war only to augment my confusion, what does WW2 have to do with the current discussion?

Good point, yet you still fail to answer my question: What incentives would the Committee have to protect a project that advances our national security?

Another characteristic of informed dialogue is civility, I ask you to extend me the same courtesy I extend to you in removing obscenity and ad hominem attacks from your dialogue.


86 posted on 12/16/2014 9:28:02 AM PST by Policy Wonk
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