Tea Party mom wins $1.12M for false prosecution

New York Post ^ | December 12, 2014 | Rich Calder

[Sealgair]

A Long Island mother of three arrested for taking pictures of an Air National Guard base in the Hamptons ​– ​while ​armed to the teeth with a licensed assault rifle in her car — has been awarded ​$1.12 million​ by a federal jury over her false prosecution by Suffolk County authorities.

[Lurkina.n.Learnin]

Are you implying those 100’s of rounds were sans bullets 9AKA blanks)? ;^)

[mrsmith]

Dailykos thread (before it disappears)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/08/02/760870/-Glenn-Beck-Fan-Highly-Armed-Busted-For-Casing-National-Guard-Base-Thinking-It-Was-A-FEMA-Camp

I hope she sues them and Olberman, who quoted the thread on air.

[Buffalo Head]

"NRA for one."

Your assertion is untrue.

When you find yourself in a hole, it is best to stop digging.

[Buffalo Head]

"Are you implying those 100’s of rounds were sans bullets 9AKA blanks)? ;^)"

I did not imply anything. I stated very clearly that it is quite improper to misidentify objects in any sort of discourse. The old school boy excuse of "Others do it also" just doesn't cut it if one reaches adulthood.

[TexasGator]

Me: “NRA for one.”

You: Your assertion is untrue.

Notice they called it a bullet pen, not a cartridge pen.

http://www.nrastore.com/nrastore/ProductDetail.aspx?p=HO%2022644

[TexasGator]

NRA bullet keychains.

http://www.nrastore.com/nrastore/ProductDetail.aspx?p=HO 607

[TexasGator]

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2013/0426/Gun-conundrum-Why-is-ammunition-still-in-short-supply

NRA uses ‘bullet’ when referring to ammunition shortage.

[Popman]

while ​armed to the teeth with a licensed assault rifle in her car

Armed to the teeth with a rifle and a AR-15...?

LOL...

[Steve_Seattle]

"I see only one rifle."

My point was that the article referred to only one weapon - however it might be classified - whereas the photo showed two weapons.

[Steve_Seattle]

"True. No need to be precise here, everyone knew exactly what was meant."

Glad to hear that. Too much one-upmanship on this thread involving technical terms about weaponry. Nitpicking stinks when it does NOT affect the gist of the point being made.

[Steve_Seattle]

"If my friend carelessly refers to ammunition as bullets, I don’t go out of my way to embarrass him in front of his peers by correcting him on a technical point when his usage of the term is so common."

You did exactly the same thing to me regarding my use of the word "rifle" when I clearly meant "weapon" in layman's terms.

[trebb]

Bullets are to cartridges as flour is to bread, as cement is to concrete, etc. Words have meanings.

Perhaps, but one can generally pick out the intended meaning. My wife once noticed one of my spare magazines (if someone said "clip" I would understand) and called me to let me know I had forgotten my bullets. I knew exactly what she meant and assured her I had plenty of bullets with me.

In the English language, context is often every bit as important as the word. "Magazine" has a number of definitions:
a periodical publication containing articles and illustrations, typically covering a particular subject or area of interest: "a car magazine" synonyms: journal · periodical · serial · supplement · quarterly · monthly · More a chamber for holding a supply of cartridges to be fed automatically to the breech of a gun.
a receptacle for storing and feeding film to a camera, CDs to a compact disc player, etc. a store for arms, ammunition, explosives, and provisions for use in military operations.

"Clip" also has a number of meanings:
clip 1 [ klip ] noun noun: clip · plural noun: clips a device, typically flexible or worked by a spring, for holding an object or objects together or in place. synonyms: fastener · clasp · hasp · catch · hook · buckle · lock a clip used to hold paper currency. a piece of jewelry fastened by a clip. synonyms: brooch · pin · badge a metal holder containing cartridges for an automatic firearm. synonyms: magazine · cartridge · cylinder verb verb: clip · third person present: clips · past tense: clipped · past participle: clipped fasten or be fastened with a clip or clips: "she clipped on a pair of diamond earrings" synonyms: fasten · attach · fix · join · pin · staple · tack clip 2 [ klip ] verb verb: clip · third person present: clips · past tense: clipped · past participle: clipped cut short or trim (hair, wool, nails, or vegetation) with shears or scissors: "clipping the hedge" synonyms: trim · prune · cut · snip · shorten · crop · shear · pare · lop · More trim or remove the hair or wool of (an animal): "how to clip your horse" cut off a thing or part of a thing with shears or scissors: "he clipped off a piece of wire" cut (a section) from a newspaper or magazine: "a photograph clipped from a magazine" synonyms: remove · cut out · snip out · tear out · detach pare the edge of (a coin), especially illicitly: "they clipped the edges of gold coins and melted the clippings down" speak (words) in a quick, precise, staccato manner: "“Yes?” The word was clipped short" process (an image) so as to remove the parts outside a certain area. truncate the amplitude of (a signal) above or below predetermined levels. strike briskly or with a glancing blow: "the steamroller clipped some parked cars" synonyms: hit · cuff · strike · smack · slap · box · clout · whack · wallop · More N. Amer. swindle or rob (someone): "in all the years he ran the place, he was clipped only three times" US move quickly in a specified direction: "we clip down the track" noun noun: clip · plural noun: clips an act of clipping or trimming something: "I gave him a full clip" synonyms: trim · cut · crop · haircut · shear a short sequence taken from a movie or broadcast: "clips from earlier shows" synonyms: extract · excerpt · snippet · cutting · fragment · trailer the quantity of wool clipped from a sheep or flock. a quick or glancing blow: "you need a clip on the jaw" synonyms: smack · cuff · slap · clout · whack · wallop · sock a specified speed or rate of movement, especially when rapid: "we crossed the dance floor at a fast clip" synonyms: speed · rate · pace · velocity · lick Powered by OxfordDictionaries · © Oxford University Press

Proper use of the language is desirable but nitpicking it can cause one to totally miss the point of the article or post - especially when the real meaning of a misused word is easily determined with little or no thought.

[TexasGator]

“You did exactly the same thing to me regarding my use of the word “rifle” when I clearly meant “weapon” in layman’s terms.”

Even most laymen don’t call a shotgun a rifle.

[catnipman]

Please post again when the punitive damages are awarded!!!

[catnipman]

“whereas the initial impression is that she was some sort of armed terrorist photographing the base for some nefarious purpose. “

Indeed. I remember when the original articles about this came out, and it made it seem like she was a terrorist photographing military operations for subsequent terrorist activity. Too bad she couldn’t also successfully sue some of the media outlets that published those lies.

[catnipman]

“‘bullet’ has become an accepted term for cartridges when one is not required to be technically correct.”

Accepted by whom? The ignorant media? Ignorant people? Because it is NOT accepted by knowledgeable people.

[TexasGator]

“Accepted by whom? The ignorant media? Ignorant people? Because it is NOT accepted by knowledgeable people”

NRA uses the term bullet when referring to cartridges.

[TexasGator]

H&K Backward Bullets story

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/08/hk-bullets-real-story/

[Delta 21]

I make bullets for a living.

Being technically correct is my livelihood. And the company for which I work, it means EVERYTHING.

Try selling a .375”dia 300 grain bullet that didnt get re-sized properly to a customer that shoots it in his $50,000 9.3mm rifle.

Similar financial judgements would be forthcoming.

[Delta 21]

....but I do remember some threads about this when it happened.

Heightened paranoia about potential terrorist targeting US facilities and uber-over zealous LE?