[jjsheridan5]

UKIP. That is our only answer. Fixing this from within is simply never going to happen. The "lesser of two evils" was a disaster. Reagan's 11th commandment no long applies. Nobody cares how many people come to DC to protest. No noise we make will ever sway those who already hold us in contempt.

The time is now. We have no choice. We (conservatives) have to leave the party, for good, and strike out on our own. We know that we have to eventually. The longer we leave it, the further we have to go. It may fail, but not as surely as simply doing nothing. Cruz, Sessions, Lee: must be convinced. Palin, perhaps Rush and Levin, as well. Tack on a dozen house Republicans, and leave the party that despises us. If we do, we will shake the foundations of this country. If we don't, the country is lost.

I'm serious. We're going to have to make a noise so big that the whole world will be deafened by it. Nothing else is going to do it at this point.

I am serious, as well. The time is now. A splinter party isn't our only option, for we can always scurry away and pine for better. It is the only option for those ideas that made this country such a unique blessing on this world.

[Windflier]

Nobody cares how many people come to DC to protest. No noise we make will ever sway those who already hold us in contempt.

I completely agree with you, if you're imagining millions of peaceful Tea people holding signs and banners, and respectfully obeying every public ordinance.

That's not what I'm talking about.

The time for those sorts of gatherings is long past, and no, they wouldn't do a thing to dissuade the treason lobby in Washington to bend to our will. No, the only kinds of protests that will get their attention, are going to have to be quite a bit stronger than that. Probably a lot stronger - and equal to the rage and frustration we're all feeling.

Think massive, unrelenting, boisterous protests, and widespread civil disobedience. Not violence, mind you - civil disobedience. There is a difference.

Americans have to be ready and willing to go into the heart of the beast and demand a return to the vision of America as laid down by the Framers. They've got to be willing to scream their bloody heads off, break some stuff, get in fedzilla's face, ignore the horrified media, endure some concrete hardships, lose time from work and family, and maybe even do some jail time.

We've got to 'go big', or we'll allow this situation to advance to a point where open rebellion is our only available option. Who in their right mind wants that?

You suggest that forming a third party is the way to go. I respectfully submit to you, that the elites who rule this country have moved beyond the political framework, and are now cementing in place institutions, policies, and forces that will negate any civil means of resistance. The federal leviathan is now under the control of real monsters, and they will use every power and means available to them to obstruct any political insurgency we can muster.

We're on the brink of a second American Revolution here. There's not much time, but there is still a window of opportunity for the people to crank their protests up to a level that can still be effective. I truly hope we seize the moment, and keep this from ratcheting up any further.