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1 posted on 12/09/2014 12:49:51 PM PST by Kaslin
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"But if you’re asking whether the President believes in government ownership of the means of production (which is the defining issue in the socialist economic platform), the answer is no"

Bammy believes in the the Gov't Ownership of Health Care.

2 posted on 12/09/2014 12:51:44 PM PST by Paladin2
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Yes. Politics isn’t so much a spectrum from left to right, but a circle, with anarchy on the outer edge, absolute Pharoahic tyranny in the center, and a range inward and outware with libertarian ideas, free markets, socialism, etc., where the variable is more control or less control, over this aspect or that aspect of life.


3 posted on 12/09/2014 12:53:11 PM PST by mbarker12474
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...including liberalism, progressivism as practised by Democrats, GOPe, RINOs, etc.


4 posted on 12/09/2014 12:54:30 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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Ed Gillespie, former RNC Chairman, made this point last week in a speech in Virginia. It was picked up by the WSJ’s Notable & Quotable.
“We can see (Obama’s) influence economy starting to take shape. CEOs are becoming less concerned about inventing the right products, targeting the right markets and hiring the right people in hopes of making respectable profits for investors—and more concerned about getting the right lobbyists, retaining the right lawyers and attending the right fund raisers in hopes of getting a hefty subsidy from taxpayers.

Making the right campaign contributions are becoming as important to a company as research and development.”

7 posted on 12/09/2014 12:57:53 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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The idea that one knows what is best for some other guy, and that it’s ok to coerce his cooperation with that idea, is the root of all evil.


10 posted on 12/09/2014 1:06:36 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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All governments use coercion. It is more or less the defining characteristic of an organization that is a government as opposed to something else.

Governments use force when then think they need to, and they claim a monopoly on violence. Nobody else is allowed to use it.

So the difference is not between government that do and those that do not use force. It’s the amount of coercion used and the purpose of that coercion that separates one government type from others.


11 posted on 12/09/2014 1:09:11 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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But if you’re asking whether the President believes in government ownership of the means of production (which is the defining issue in the socialist economic platform), the answer is no. . . .

At least that is what he says, for now. Changed his mind, supposedly, on gay marriage, didn't he? Changed his mind on executive order for immigration, didn't he? Leftists NEVER tell the truth about their ultimate goals, else they would never be elected. No doubt about it in my mind, Obama is lying, thievin', filthy, stinkin' Commie.

12 posted on 12/09/2014 1:10:47 PM PST by RatRipper (No need to rob others; democRATS will steal and share a tiny bit with you.)
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think of the groups around the world that the BBC, for example, calls “Right-wing”: the Taliban, who want communal ownership of goods; the Iranian revolutionaries, who…seized industries and destroyed the middle class; Vladimir Zhirinovsky, who pined for Stalinism.

This actually makes sense, sort of.

Every society has its own traditions that conservatives seek to protect or return to. What they are varies, so an American conservative has very little in common with a Russian or Afghan conservative.

OTOH, leftism around the world, whether of the national or international variety, has a great deal in common everywhere.

BTW, while Nazism was national socialist at its core, in blended in so much of the toxic European and specifically German varieties of conservatism (Church and Crown, blood and soil) that I think it stretches terminology to call the Nazis "socialist" without a great deal of explanation of terms.

13 posted on 12/09/2014 1:14:18 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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German National Socialists of the Hitler era were….well, socialists.

The German right characteristically denounced socialism, while supporting the welfare state, demanding government supervision of the economy, and preaching the duty of property-owners to serve their country.

The German left characteristically denounced nationalism, while extolling the feats of imperial Germany, cursing the Allied victors of the war, and urging the rebirth of a powerful Fatherland.

The Nazis took over the essence of each side in the German debate and proudly offered the synthesis as one unified viewpoint. The synthesis was National Socialism.

14 posted on 12/09/2014 1:15:43 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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i.e. corporatism, or other forms of statism.....

Mark Levin words.. before Mark almost never heard these words..

Ameritopia.. another Mark Levin word..


17 posted on 12/09/2014 1:27:46 PM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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So he’s a fascist.


20 posted on 12/09/2014 1:51:12 PM PST by duffee (Dump the Chairman of the Mississippi Republican Party, joe nosef.)
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“But if you’re asking whether the President believes in government ownership of the means of production (which is the defining issue in the socialist economic platform), the answer is no.”

Discrediting the whole article. No sense in reading any further.


25 posted on 12/09/2014 1:57:25 PM PST by Slambat
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Any degree of socialism is, by nature, dependent on some degree of tyranny.


29 posted on 12/09/2014 2:09:05 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, N recruitot a cut Matter of Opinion)
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Government control of private property for the “good”of the state is fascism, and we have plenty of that. That’s exactly what Hitler did. It’s time for states to begin flexing their muscles in order to destroy the federal fascist bureaucracy infesting their territories.


32 posted on 12/09/2014 3:14:29 PM PST by sergeantdave
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ping


34 posted on 12/10/2014 8:53:47 AM PST by celmak
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