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20 key findings about CIA interrogations
Washington Post ^ | 12/9/14

Posted on 12/09/2014 11:10:15 AM PST by Oliviaforever

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To: TigersEye

Ah, yes - ye olde “I can’t argue with the substance so I’ll make some comment based on a signup date” ploy.


41 posted on 12/09/2014 4:01:24 PM PST by Bernard Mickey Wrangle
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To: a fool in paradise

No. But the United States of America is. If your comment is intended to suggest that we don’t have to extend their protection to these people who are not “subscribers,” well, it is simply wrong. Both SCOTUS and the Pentagon say it is wrong.


42 posted on 12/09/2014 4:01:24 PM PST by Bernard Mickey Wrangle
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To: a fool in paradise

If you are actually interested, there is a valid international law position on this and a legitimate discussion. However, it sounds more like you just want to say “eh, rule of law, whatever.”

I wonder if anyone on this thread would stand up and say “I think it is a good idea for the US to follow a policy that it will ‘torture’ people we don’t like and see as a threat, regardless of any law or treaty to the contrary, when we think it is justified.” I imagine most people can see the folly in that position.


43 posted on 12/09/2014 4:01:24 PM PST by Bernard Mickey Wrangle
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To: Bernard Mickey Wrangle

What was the valid international law position to invade Pakistan and murder Osama?


44 posted on 12/09/2014 4:03:13 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: Bernard Mickey Wrangle

Just thought it was strange that you signed up over a year ago and you made your first posts today on this thread.


45 posted on 12/09/2014 4:16:20 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: Bernard Mickey Wrangle

The Geneva Convention itself explicitly states that non-state actors are not covered by the Convention. There’s yer substance, sparky.


46 posted on 12/09/2014 4:19:30 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: Bernard Mickey Wrangle
I wonder if anyone on this thread would stand up and say “I think it is a good idea for the US to follow a policy that it will ‘torture’ people we don’t like and see as a threat, regardless of any law or treaty to the contrary, when we think it is justified.”

That is called a Straw Man argument. The subject is interrogation of terrorists not "people we don’t like."

47 posted on 12/09/2014 4:21:47 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: TigersEye

Nope. That argument was made, and rejected, by SCOTUS in Hamdan. Article 3 provides protection for detainees in the territory of a signatory. Only Justice Thomas held that the Geneva Convention did not apply. IOW, with regard to persons held in our territory, which can include a facility not within our borders, not even Justices Scalia and Alito agree with you. So your “substance” is nothing more than your opinion, sparky.


48 posted on 12/09/2014 4:30:47 PM PST by Bernard Mickey Wrangle
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No, my substance was the text of the GC, wheezy. So far you haven’t shown that any laws were broken.


49 posted on 12/09/2014 4:36:18 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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That was a little rough. Was he a retread?


50 posted on 12/09/2014 5:33:23 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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