Posted on 12/09/2014 5:39:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind
There is little doubt that the shutdown damaged the partys standing. ??
I guess the recent election really showed those Republicans what happens if they Shut Down the Government.
Just more dribble from the Ruling Class aimed at Electing Hillary in 2 years.
I reject the underlying premise of the article, which is that Republicans should do what is good for the Republican Party, not what is good for the country.
83% of the government remained open during the so-called shutdown.
The government shutdown last year was beneficial due to being the first of a one-two punch that worked in the GOP’s favor.
The second punch was the collapse on rollout of Healthcare.gov. Once that happened, the GOP looked validated for their reasons for the shutdown.
The government should never be shut down over anger or spite or any other emotional reason. It needs to be shut down as part of a larger plan that leveraged the shut down in some well thought-out way to achieve defined and realistic political goals.
Every time I read about the prospect of a shutdown, I think of the Peanuts cartoon with Lucy, Charlie Brown, and the football. I’ll leave it to Rush to figure out which politician is Lucy and which is Charlie Brown.
Why do Republicans distrust each other? We see the back slapping between R and D elected officials and the results of their coming together. Always more to the left than to the right.Then we see the jovial Dems sticking a knife in the back of the Rep to win the argument. We see Rep that are not articulate and confident at explaining the conservative position which makes us wonder if they really understand and believe it themselves. We see articulate Rep like Cruz or even Palin castigated and made fun of even though they are right more than wrong, not by media only, by Republican operatives and other politicians. I probably could go on. So it seems that the Rep are more interested in moving the debate to the left while trying to appear they are pulling to the right exactly because they are fearful and unwilling to use all thier tactics, stand strong, and represent the truth to the public around the media. By the way, the media isn’t a conglomerate of brains, it wouldn’t be too hard to talk around them if you have someone with brains and conviction.
Yeah it’s just a great idea. The public hates shutdowns. They blame the Republicans..so when are poll ratings inevitably collapse.. we’ll run like scalded dogs and all we did was torch our support. Give Obama a big win. And gave some bureaucrats a nice, long paid vacation. Great idea...can we do it again?
Polls do NOT show anywhere near the blame for Rep the author states.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/05/government-shutdown-blame-poll_n_4045780.html
Huffpo is hardly a Conservative site and can be seen the spread is barley 10 points by those blaming Rep. And just a few months later the Dems got annihilated in the midterms.
You are the problem. Please go away.
Shut the government down. It has happened many times before. Mainly, about 25% of the government is “shut down”. Who cares? I say make it 50%. If only they also wouldn’t back-pay to the government “workers”...essentially giving them a paid vacation. Shut downs bare a political joke. Shutting down parts of the government leviathan forever would be a good thing. mona is wimpy and wrong here. The GOPe must be shown to be the quisling weaklings they are.
Whenever Republicans occasionally do the right thing, they get bad press for it because it infuriates the left.
That does not mean it was the wrong thing to do.
We cannot afford to compromise with things over which there is no compromise. Obamacare is one of them. Immigration “reform” is another.
Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al, only accept “compromise” when they get EVERYTHING they want.
What good will it be to compromise on immigration when the President will selectively enforce only the provisions he wants?
Defund him. Quit worrying about future political repercussions of doing the right thing. You were elected to do the right thing NOW, not to shore up more power until some mythical day when you can finally do the right thing.
This "conservatives stayed home" narrative was trotted out literally within hours of the 2012 election being called for Obama, making me suspicious that it was pre-fabricated with the intent of further ostracizing evangelicals and conservatives from the Republican party. The overwhelming majority of conservative evangelicals who showed up in 2012 voted for Romney, but that's not the narrative we're hearing, even from Rush. Instead, the press has taken the one group that consistently, overwhelmingly votes for the more conservative candidate year after year, and tells the nation that this same group sat out the election and should be blamed for Obama's reelection. Does anybody else smell a set-up here?
According to the above article, Romney still couldn't win unless an unlikely 90% of this theoretical "missing white voter" base had voted for him.
Related threads:
Evangelicals plunge America into darkness mislead polls and stay home on Election Day
Survey: Evangelical Voters for Romney Overshadowed by Youth, Minorities for Obama
The Church Re Elected President Obama
So don’t ever complain about cowardly Republicans since you are one.
Pray America is waking
Running a Picket’s charge isn’t brave...it’s stupid.
Only Obama can shut down the government. Only buffoons such as the entire GOP “leadership” could fail to explain to the American people the despotic reasons WHY Obama shut down the government. I don’t want Obamacare OR the treasonous executive action funded. Do you? What is YOUR strategy to stop Obama? Bob
There IS stupid here, right on this board. I think you are an Obama suck-up, someone who raises the white flag before a shot is fired.
And you know it is a Picket’s charge how? Most of us would consider running Romney, McCain and Doll a Picket’s charge and have the numbers to prove it.
Nine months after a shutdown we have the largest majority in the last hundred years, I will take all of those dumb moves as I could.
Can anyone name one representative or senator who was NOT elected due to the earlier shutdown? I think many voters were motivated because the government was shut down and finally someone took a stand in DC. If the Republicans become “potted plants” then they will loose the support they have from their base.
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