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To: SeekAndFind

Well, what’s going to happen to these suits in light of the fact that there is no actual order?

No standing?

One has to be damaged before one can sue, and how can one be damaged by someting that does not actually exist?


2 posted on 12/08/2014 8:00:37 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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Amazing that no one ever seems to have standing to sue on any Obama made-up laws. Quite a loophole.


3 posted on 12/08/2014 8:03:06 PM PST by ilgipper
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The standing here is zero has mitigated a new swarm over our TX border, something our ICE budgets cannot address.

zero sent the clarion call to central america last summer and they’re still streaming in. He went on Univision to encourage the new stream.

TX Border Patrol budgets can’t handle it.


4 posted on 12/08/2014 8:10:52 PM PST by txhurl (No more taglines)
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To: chris37
One has to be damaged before one can sue, and how can one be damaged by someting that does not actually exist?

While there is no Executive Order, there is still an identifiable policy that has been formally adopted and justified on the basis of "prosecutorial discretion".

The case will hinge on whether "prosecutorial discretion" can be used to justify a broad policy of non-deportation of millions of illegals or whether it's applicability is limited to selected case-by-case decisions.

In other words, is the President violating his oath to "faithfully execute the laws" or is he justified in applying "discretion"?

6 posted on 12/08/2014 8:26:41 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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I don’t think the president was listed as a defendant in the lawsuit. I think it was against the implementing agents and departments that have actually taken action.


19 posted on 12/08/2014 8:56:46 PM PST by etcb
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True there’s no EO, but there’s memos and hard proof the intent of the EO is being implemented. 1,000 new hires in Virginia by the DHS, etc.. These actions are due to Amnesty being implemented whether there’s an EO or not. A meeting just took place at the WH regarding implementation of Amnesty. Lots of tangible evidence here, and follow the money too.


29 posted on 12/08/2014 10:35:30 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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No, one does not have to be injured/damaged. The real and appreciable risk of threatened harm is enough.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-193_omq2.pdf


31 posted on 12/08/2014 10:40:54 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: chris37
Well, what’s going to happen to these suits in light of the fact that there is no actual order?

DHS has operational memos out to make it so despite it not being a "real EO". Effect will be just as bad as if he had signed it. Might complicate who actually needs to be sued though - more layers of the onion to peel away to find the appropriate target.

35 posted on 12/09/2014 4:53:52 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Texas Governor Elect Abbott - who is leading the suit has stated that when the lawsuit was filed that he and his team were aware that no actual EO was signed and delivered... The suit will focus on actions by the Secretary of DHS proceeding under no basis of law ... not even an EO...

Actually - I believe that since there was no EO the action against the DHS will make it easier. Also the suit has been assigned a Bush appointed Judge who has ruled against the DHS before on lax border enforcement....


37 posted on 12/09/2014 6:34:28 AM PST by ICCtheWay
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I don’t understand what Oklahoma’s hesitancy to join this effort is. We should’ve been on board from the beginning.


42 posted on 12/09/2014 10:42:54 AM PST by YankeeinOkieville (Obamanation [oh-bom-uh-nay-shuhn] n. -- ignorance and arrogance in the highest offices)
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