Posted on 12/05/2014 12:28:05 PM PST by GIdget2004
Texans are NOT pledging allegiance to the Confederate flag. I wish people would mind their own business and leave me alone to mind mine. If you or anyone else finds the Confederate flag, which is a part of our history, offensive, then learn to accept it. We’re not going to change our history or remove it from “Six Flags over Texas” because it offends you.
If somebody wanted to fly the Nazi flag or some other flag that was not part of our history, I and others might find that offensive if displayed in the wrong context.
If you bruise easily or are easily offended, don’t come to Texas.
Would you mind volunteering a few sentences to clarify what you think that the Supremes decided about 14A? The idea of 14A applying constituitonal “privileges and immunites” to the states is based not only on the wording of Section 1 of 14A, but also on the official post-ratification clarification of 14A in the congressional record by John Bingham, Bingham the main author of Section 1.
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I will take your [non]response as verification that you, like I, cannot explain how someone who already resides in a particular place can “invade” it.
The War of Northern Aggression was about states rights, the primary one of which was the right to own slaves.
That I know and have posted that very idea long time ago when this issue was brought up. Every so often someone comes along and raises it again like they were some Civil War veteran. It’s over. The Union survived. Some folks simply won’t let it go.
The War of Secession is over. I suggest you get over it too.
With no commentary on whether or not I personally agree with them, here a few scotus cases which “strengthened” the 14th amendment as regards the states:
Lochner v. New York (17 Apr 1905)
Gitlow v. New York (08 June 1925)
Brown v. Board of Education (17 May 1954)
Gideon v. Wainwright (18 Mar 1963)
Griswold v. Connecticut (07 Jun 1965)
Loving v. Virginia (12 Jun 1967)
Regents of the University of California v. Bakke (26 Jun 1978)
I do apologize, though, I should have said “progressive” supreme courtS (plural)
By the way, until the early 20th century, it appears most scotus decisions held that the 14th did NOT limit the states in the same way it limited the feds:
The Slaughter-House Cases (14 Apr 1873)
Plessy v. Ferguson (18 May 1896)
the Confederate Flag - Correlates with States Right not anything else. What’s next the georgia Secession Flag is a big red star on a white background. So does this have to go to. like the Ole Miss has the rebel with white hair does that have to go too,
In the north the Badgers, the Wolverines, the Gophers, the hawkeyes buckeyes and Cornhuskers are college sports names. So do these names signify someting wrong - badgers gophers and wolverines are based on moning in Wisconsin, Minnesota and Michigan, hawkeyes is mythical for Iowa (what do you want to known as the pig state - becareful pig stye) Ohio because of a tree with chestnuts - buckeyes and cornhuskers because Nebraska is the corn and grain state.
So will the Yankees have to give up their name as it is derogatory to many from the south. If you are north of the Mason- Dixon Line you are a Damn Yankee, all other states of the Union were Yankees. Political Correctness needs to stop
Given this ruling one might think that SCOTUS will allow these plates with the understanding that nobody is being *forced* to display them,as was the case with the New Hampshire Commie.
I have no great love of the confederacy.
However, I DO have a great deal of respect for SOME of their political ideas and for some of their leaders.
On the other hand, I find it difficult to have much respect for people who simply, and more often than not caustically, dismiss those ideas out of hand and/or show disdain for the brave men who, however misguidedly, fought for those ideas.
Have a nice evening.
Don’t forget Wooley v. Maynard (SCOTUS 1977),the case I referred to in my previous post.
I guess it’s open to interpretation, depending on which side of the Mason-Dixon line your ancestors were from. Got it.
The chain of command that I would have liked to have seen would have been:
Army Commander - Robert E. Lee
Corps Commanders - Ulysses S. Grant, Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson, William T. Sherman, and James Longstreet
Overall Cavalry Commander - Philip Sheridan
Cavalry Brigade Commanders - Nathan B. Forrest, James H. Wilson, and John H. Morgan
With Confederate and Union infantry and artillery, we could have ruled the world.
The South was peopled largely with Democrats, to further confuse the issue. The Republicanization of the South is a modern trend, a welcome one but one that required leaving behind certain follies.
The slave issue was a curse hanging over them, however. By including that in the non negotiables, they doomed themselves morally.
Guess you never got involved in the great Civil War debate here. You have a lovely evening also and a Merry Christmas. You’re welcome.
I believe that the post Civil War SCOTUS had properly clarified that the 14th Amendment added no new protections to the Constitution.
“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphasis added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.
In fact, the Court’s statement reflects Bingham’s clarification that 14A applied only enumerated protections to the states.
“Mr. Speaker, this House may safely follow the example of the makers of the Constitution and the builders of the Republic, by passing laws for enforcing all the privileges and immunities of the United States as guaranteed by the amended Constitution and expressly enumerated in the Constitution [emphasis added].” — Congressional Globe, House of Representatives, 42nd Congress, 1st Session. (See lower half of third column.)
Also note that the states properly responded to the Supreme Court’s probably unpopular decision in Minor v. Happersett by ratifying the 19th Amendment to the Constitution, effectively giving women the right to vote.
So particularly with respect to Supreme Court cases decided after FDR’s activist justices started to boldly ignore 10th Amendment-protected state sovereignty when they decided Wickard v. Filburn in corrupt Congress’s favor in 1942, activist judges have been wrongly using various clauses in Section 1 of the 14th Amendment as an excuse to “ratify” new “express” rights to the Constitution from the bench, probably to help Constitution-ignoring Democrats and RINOs get elected to office imo.
But a Saudi or Iranian flag on a license plate would be OK?
Neither nation has much love for America.
Alexander Stephens (Vice President of the Confederacy) would disagree. In what became known as the “Cornerstone Speech,” Stephens argued that the new Confederate government was based upon “the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man.” Stephens vehemently supported the institution of slavery while Lincoln denied being an abolisionist and stated that if he could preserve the union with slavery he would do so.
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